New to GR, having trouble with lagrangian calculation

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Euler-Lagrange equation in the context of General Relativity (GR), specifically focusing on a Lagrangian involving covariant derivatives and the metric tensor. Participants are addressing the challenges of notation and mathematical formulation in this area.

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  • One participant presents a Lagrangian and seeks assistance in deriving the Euler-Lagrange equation, expressing confusion about the notation and the use of covariant derivatives.
  • Another participant suggests using LaTeX for better readability of mathematical expressions and provides examples of LaTeX code.
  • A third participant acknowledges the advice on LaTeX and expresses gratitude for the guidance.
  • A participant notes that while the post is now more readable, they do not have the answer to the original question but are interested in learning from the responses of others.

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There is no consensus on the original question regarding the Euler-Lagrange equation, as participants are primarily focused on formatting and clarity rather than providing solutions or resolving the mathematical inquiry.

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Participants have not yet addressed the specific mathematical steps required to derive the Euler-Lagrange equation from the provided Lagrangian, and there may be assumptions about familiarity with GR notation that are not explicitly stated.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals new to General Relativity or those seeking assistance with mathematical notation in theoretical physics, particularly in the context of Lagrangian mechanics.

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Find the Euler – Lagrange Equation when

L = -1/2 (D_p a_u)(D^p a^u) \sqrt{-g} dx^4

Use g_u_v to raise/lower indices

D_p is the covariant derivative

I am very new at this notation and am having a lot of trouble getting anywhere with this.

I know I have to take the action:

S = \int Ldt

and i know the covariant derivative D_p a^q = d_p a^q + \Gamma_p_h^q a^hI honestly have know idea where to start any help would be much appreciated.
 
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Hi, LoopQG --

Please use LaTeX to mark up your math. Here is an example: y=ax^2. To see how this example is done, click the QUOTE button on my post. You can then LaTeX-ify your original post by going back and editing it.

-Ben
 
Thanks Ben,

I'm new to physics forum didn't know you could do that, appreciate the help!
 
Try the following Latex, you can quote my post to see the code...

<br /> \nabla_{p}<br />

<br /> \Gamma^{q}{}_{ph}<br />

<br /> \partial_{p}<br />
 
The good news is that your post is now more readable and likely to attract helpful answers. The bad news is that I don't know the answer. Sorry, but maybe I'll learn something myself by watching for good answers from others:-)

-Ben
 

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