Newton's first law of motion and Inertial Systems

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Newton's first law of motion asserts the existence of inertial frames, which are defined by the uniform motion of isolated bodies. The discussion highlights a contradiction between the belief that inertial systems do not exist due to spacetime curvature and the assertion that such systems are defined in classical mechanics. It is noted that while inertial frames may not exist in a strict sense, there are frames that can be considered inertial to first order. The conversation raises questions about the implications of spacetime curvature on the concept of inertial frames and seeks clarification on the term "inertial to first order." Overall, the dialogue emphasizes the complexity of understanding inertial systems within the framework of classical mechanics and modern physics.
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I have just begun my journey in Classical Mechanics with the book "An Introduction to Mechanics" by Kleppner and Kolenkow. I find myself stuck at Newton's first law. The book presents Newton's first law as follows:

"Newton's first law is an assertion that inertial frames exist."

The book also states:

"Newton's first law is part definition and part experimental. Isolated bodies move uniformly in inertial systems is by virtue of the definition of an inertial system. In contrast, the assertion that inertial systems exist is a statement about the physical world."

The above statements lead me to believe that inertial systems exist. However, it is believed that an inertial system does not exist. Does this belief not contradict the statements above? Do inertial frames really exist?

Also, in an inertial frame, not only isolated bodies but anybody experiencing a net zero force moves with constant velocity( or moves uniformly ). This is the first law that we all know. The book, however, focuses only on isolated bodies. Does this not leave us with an incomplete understanding of the first law?
 
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rohit dutta said:
The above statements lead me to believe that inertial systems exist. However, it is believed that an inertial system does not exist. Does this belief not contradict the statements above? Do inertial frames really exist?
Inertial frames do not exist because of the curvature of spacetime. But frames exist that are inertial to first order, and that is probably to what the text is referring.
 
andrewkirk said:
Inertial frames do not exist because of the curvature of spacetime. But frames exist that are inertial to first order, and that is probably to what the text is referring.

What has the curvature of space-time got to do with the existence of inertial frames? Also, what do you mean by frames are inertial to first order?
 
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