Newton's Gravity corrected and Pioneer 10 anomaly

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The discussion revolves around proposed corrections to Newton's law of gravitation based on claims related to the Pioneer 10 anomaly and the implications of these corrections for gravitational interactions in the solar system. Participants explore the theoretical and experimental aspects of these claims, including their potential impact on our understanding of gravity and the behavior of celestial bodies.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that Newton's law requires slight corrections based on the material differences between masses in interaction, suggesting a predicted difference of about 0.3% compared to classical Newtonian predictions.
  • Another participant references a related discussion about whether the Pioneer anomaly indicates the importance of dark matter or dark energy in the outer solar system, arguing that modifications to gravitational attraction must account for their absence in the orbits of outer planets.
  • It is noted that the Pioneer 10 spacecraft is composed of heavier elements than the outer planets, which raises questions about the applicability of the proposed corrections to gravitational interactions.
  • Concerns are expressed regarding the validity of the claims made by the author of the new formula, with suggestions that the author should publish in a peer-reviewed journal for proper assessment.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the author's claims, with one suggesting that the proposal resembles an April Fool's joke and indicating a lack of awareness of established experiments related to gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the validity and implications of the proposed corrections to Newton's law, with some expressing skepticism and others considering the potential for new insights. No consensus is reached on the correctness of the claims or their implications for gravitational theory.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for further experimental validation and peer review of the proposed corrections, indicating that the discussion is limited by the lack of established consensus on the claims made.

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In short he claims that Newton's law must be slightly corrected on base of material difference between mases in interaction.
Given also is one calculation that predicts difference between classical (Newton's formula) and new formula by about 0.3%.
Computer calculation of P10 and Voyager trajectories seems to support his formula to the great extent.
 
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Garth said:
Basically if you modify the gravitational attraction of the Sun you have to explain why it does not show up in the orbits of the Outer Planets and tests of the Equivalence Principle.
Answer to the first part of the sentence :
P10 is made of much heavier elements than outer planets.
As for Equivalence Principle (which is imbeded in a very core of GR) this is a good question.Send the author of formula e-mail (he provided his e-mail on the page).He can explain that too.He also proposes new experiment regarding that matter.
 
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Nobody dropped him an e-mail?
For a long time I haven't read such a loosy attempt of P10 anomaly curve
fitting.
He even informed NASA about his "great" discovery...
 
tehno said:
Nobody dropped him an e-mail?
For a long time I haven't read such a loosy attempt of P10 anomaly curve
fitting.
He even informed NASA about his "great" discovery...
Publish in a peer reviewed journal and have the 'discovery' assessed and we can then discuss it here on PF.

Garth
 
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Yup,I thought it was a 1st April joke,but wasn't that date.
Poor man,he probably didn't hear of Cavendish and Eotvos type experiments...
 
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