Is There Symmetry in the Signs of Newton's Identities?

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In summary, the relationship between the variables p and h follows a specific pattern in which the values of p are determined by the values of h through certain equations. However, it is not possible to simply change the signs in these equations and still maintain accuracy.
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Look this relationship:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_identities#Related_identities

If I isolate the variable p, I'll have:

##p_1 = 1h_1##
##p_2 = 2h_2-h_1p_1##
##p_3 = 3h_3-h_2p_1-h_1p_2##

So, my question is: BTW, would be true that:

##p_1 = 1h_1##
##p_2 = 2h_2+h_1p_1##
##p_3 = 3h_3+h_2p_1+h_1p_2##

?

EDIT: I'm asking because with base in other formulas seems that there is some symmetry between the signals...
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Jhenrique said:
If I isolate the variable p, I'll have:

##p_1 = 1h_1##
##p_2 = 2h_2-h_1p_1##
##p_3 = 3h_3-h_2p_1-h_1p_2##

So, my question is: BTW, would be true that:

##p_1 = 1h_1##
##p_2 = 2h_2+h_1p_1##
##p_3 = 3h_3+h_2p_1+h_1p_2##
No.
The first equation just above is correct, but the next two aren't. You can' t just change the sign arbitrarily.
If ##p_2 = 2h_2-h_1p_1##, you can replace ##p_1## by ##h_1## to get
##p_2 = 2h_2 - h_1^2##
 

1. What are Newton's identities?

Newton's identities are a set of mathematical equations that relate the coefficients of a polynomial to the sums and products of its roots.

2. Who is Sir Isaac Newton?

Sir Isaac Newton was an English mathematician, physicist, and astronomer who is widely recognized as one of the most influential scientists in history. He is best known for his laws of motion and universal gravitation.

3. What is the significance of Newton's identities?

Newton's identities are useful in finding the roots of a polynomial and in solving systems of equations. They also have applications in areas such as signal processing and control theory.

4. How do you derive Newton's identities?

Newton's identities can be derived using the fundamental theorem of algebra, which states that every polynomial equation has as many solutions as its degree. They can also be derived using the method of undetermined coefficients.

5. Can Newton's identities be applied to all polynomials?

No, Newton's identities can only be applied to monic polynomials, which are polynomials with a leading coefficient of 1. They can also only be applied to polynomials with complex roots.

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