Noetherian Rings and Modules: Theorem 2.2 - Cohn - Section 2.2 Chain Conditions

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The discussion centers on Theorem 2.2 from P.M. Cohn's "Introduction to Ring Theory," specifically regarding the implications of Artinian and Noetherian rings and modules. The theorem states that if Part (b) holds, then any non-empty collection of submodules in a module \( M \) has a maximal member. The participants confirm that multiple maximal submodules can exist, depending on the starting members of the collection \( \mathscr{C} \). The conversation highlights the importance of following the proof in the text for clarity and understanding.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Noetherian and Artinian rings
  • Familiarity with submodules in module theory
  • Knowledge of Theorem 2.2 from Cohn's "Introduction to Ring Theory"
  • Basic concepts of ascending chains in algebra
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  • Study the proof of Theorem 2.2 in Cohn's "Introduction to Ring Theory"
  • Explore the implications of maximal submodules in Noetherian modules
  • Learn about ascending and descending chain conditions in module theory
  • Investigate examples of Artinian and Noetherian rings and their properties
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Mathematics students, particularly those studying abstract algebra, ring theory, and module theory, will benefit from this discussion, as well as educators seeking to clarify concepts related to Theorem 2.2.

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I am reading P.M. Cohn's book: Introduction to Ring Theory (Springer Undergraduate Mathematics Series) ... ...

I am currently focused on Section 2.2: Chain Conditions ... which deals with Artinian and Noetherian rings and modules ... ...

I need help with understanding a feature of the Theorem and its proof ...

Theorem 2.2 and its proof read as follows:https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/4900
View attachment 4901Part (c) of the above theorem effectively states that if Part (b) holds then any non-empty collection of submodules in $$M$$ has a maximal member ... ...

Now my understanding of the proof of $$\text{ (b) } \Longrightarrow \text{ (c) }$$ (which I wish someone to confirm) implies that any non-empty collection of submodules of $$M$$ may actually have several or, indeed, many maximal members ... that is members that are maximal submodules of $$M$$ ... since, following the proof of $$\text{ (b) } \Longrightarrow \text{ (c) }$$, we may start with different members of the collection $$\mathscr{C}$$ and build different strictly ascending chains which may end up having different maximal submodules ... ...

Is my analysis correct ... ... ?

I would appreciate it if someone would confirm my analysis is correct ... and/or ... point out any errors or shortcomings ...

Hope someone can help ... ...

Peter
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in order for MHB readers to appreciate the definitions and context to Theorem 2.2 in Cohn, I am providing Cohn's brief introduction to Section 2.2 Chain Conditions ... which reads as follows:View attachment 4902
 
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I am sorry, Peter, but I cannot follow this reasoning. Maybe it is best to follow the proof in the text. Or you can try this: suppose you have a non-empty collection $\mathscr{C}$ of submodules of $M$ that does not have a maximal member, what happens then?
 
steenis said:
I am sorry, Peter, but I cannot follow this reasoning. Maybe it is best to follow the proof in the text. Or you can try this: suppose you have a non-empty collection $\mathscr{C}$ of submodules of $M$ that does not have a maximal member, what happens then?
Thanks for reminding me of this issue, Steenis ...

I just revisited the Cohn text ... and have resolved the issue ...

By the way ... your help in the past has been critical and crucial to my understanding of ring and module theory ...

So thank you ...!

Peter
 
You are welcome, Peter, it helps me too.
 

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