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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving the proportion of students in a math class who favor a new policy, given that 68% of students support it. The focus is on determining the probability that the proportion of supporters in a class of 45 students is no more than two-thirds.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the mean and standard deviation of the proportion and question how to proceed with the probability calculation. There is an exploration of the relationship between the number of students in favor and the probability distribution. Some participants suggest considering the problem in terms of coin tosses to clarify the distribution of outcomes.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing insights and asking clarifying questions. There is a recognition of the connection between the original problem and the distribution of coin tosses, which may help in understanding the underlying concepts. No consensus has been reached yet, and the discussion remains open-ended.

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Participants are working within the constraints of their current understanding and coursework, with some expressing uncertainty about the application of concepts learned in class to this specific problem.

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Homework Statement



68% of students favor a new policy, we are interested in the proportion of 45 students in a math class who favor the same policy.

What is the probability that the proportion of the class that favors the policy is no more than two-thirds?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I found the mean, .68, and the standard deviation, .047. I don't know where to take it from here though
 
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ChrisBlack said:

Homework Statement



68% of students favor a new policy, we are interested in the proportion of 45 students in a math class who favor the same policy.

What is the probability that the proportion of the class that favors the policy is no more than two-thirds?

Homework Equations






The Attempt at a Solution


I found the mean, .68, and the standard deviation, .047. I don't know where to take it from here though

If the proportion of the class in favor is no more than 2/3, what does that say about the _number_ of students in favor? What is the probability distribution of the number (out of 45) who are in favor? Note: the number in favor can be 0 or 1 or 2 or ... or 45; I am asking you to describe a formula for the probability that k students are in favor, for any of the 46 values of k. What are the mean and standard deviation of the number in favor?

Once you have dealt with these questions you will be in a better position to know what to do next.

RGV
 
So no more than 30 students can favor it. This does not sound like anything I have done in class so far, does it have to do anything with the fact that 68% of the data falls within 2 standard deviations of the mean?
 
ChrisBlack said:
So no more than 30 students can favor it. This does not sound like anything I have done in class so far, does it have to do anything with the fact that 68% of the data falls within 2 standard deviations of the mean?

I don't know what you have done so far, so that is why I asked the questions in my previous post. Do you know the distribution of the number if favor? Maybe you do, without even realizing it. Let's work through it slowly. Instead of asking about the number of students in 45 that are in favor, suppose instead I asked about tossing coins or dice. In fact, suppose I have a biased coin, with probability p = 0.68 of falling 'heads' in each toss. I toss it 45 times and count the resulting number of 'heads'. Do you agree this is the same problem? Have you seen before the distribution of the number of 'heads' in coin tossing?

I'll wait for your answers before continuing.

RGV
 
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, i can see how that is the same problem and i have worked with the distribution of coin tosses. So far all I have really done is identify the variables, N (number of students, 45) P (.68), q (.32) standard deviation (.047), and mean (.68). I have to sleep so I will check back tomorrow. I really appreciate your help, thanks!
 

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