Normal force of a ball at the top and bottom of a circular path

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a string at the top and bottom of a vertical circular path for a ball. It is established that the tension at the bottom is greater than at the top by six times the weight of the ball due to differences in centripetal and gravitational forces. The user attempts to apply conservation of energy principles but struggles with the calculations and understanding of the variables involved. Key equations include the relationship between velocities at different points and the forces acting on the ball. Clarification is sought on whether to include tension in both sides of the conservation of energy equation.
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Homework Statement


A ball whirls around in a vertical circle at the end of a string. The other end of the string is fixed at the center of the circle. Assuming that the total energy of the ball-Earth system remains constant, show that the tension in the string at the bottom is greater than the tension at the top by six times the weight of the ball.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to use W = ∆K = mgy and W₁ + U₁ + W = W₂ + U₂ to solve the problem,
but it did not work out.

I'm pretty lost on this one.

HELP!
 
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Minimum velocity of the ball at the top of the circular motion is given by
m*vi^2/R = mg = T Or vi^2 = Rg.
When it falls to the lowest point, let its velocity be vf and displacement be 2R.
Now apply the conservation of energy to find vf.
What is the tension in the string at the bottom of the circular motion of the ball?
 
Thanks.. but I still don't quite see how to obtain the solution.
 
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vf^2 = vi^2 + 2*g*2R
Bur vi^2 = gR. So
vf^2 = gR + 4gR = 5gR
So the centripetal acceleration is 5g and gravitational acceleration is g.
So the total acceleration at the bottom is = ...
Compare it with that of at the top.
 
rl.bhat said:
vf^2 = vi^2 + 2*g*2R
Bur vi^2 = gR. So
vf^2 = gR + 4gR = 5gR
So the centripetal acceleration is 5g and gravitational acceleration is g.
So the total acceleration at the bottom is = ...
Compare it with that of at the top.

When I use the conservation of energy equation, do I account for T on both sides?
 
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