Number Theory-limitation of Pn

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The discussion centers on Euclid's proof regarding the existence of infinitely many primes, specifically the inequality p_{n+1} ≤ p_{1}p_{2}...p_{n} + 1. Participants clarify that if p_1, p_2, ..., p_n represent all primes up to p_n, then the product plus one (N) cannot be divisible by any of these primes, implying N is either a new prime or divisible by a larger prime. One contributor suggests that the proof can be approached using inductive reasoning based on the order of primes. The conversation emphasizes understanding the relationship between primes and the implications of the inequality in number theory. The exploration of this proof highlights the foundational concepts in the study of prime numbers.
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This is part of Euclid's proof such that he says:
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P_{n+1} smaller or equal to P_{1}P_{2}...P_{n} +1
Such that p_n is to denote some prime
I am wondering if anyone could provide me with an elegant prove to the above inequality as i am new to number theory.

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icystrike said:

Homework Statement



This is part of Euclid's proof such that he says:
1)

p_{n+1} smaller or equal to p_{1}p_{2}...p_{n}+1
Such that p_n is to denote some prime
I am wondering if anyone could provide me with an elegant prove to the above inequality as i am new to number theory.
That is part of Euclid's proof of what? The "p_1p_2\cdot\cdot\cdot p_n+ 1" reminds me of Euclides proof that there are an infinite number of primes but he never asserts that p_{n+1} is smaller than or equal to that.

It does, of course, follow from Euclid's proof. Assuming that p_1, p_2, ..., p_n is a list of all primes less than or equal to p_n, p_1p_2\cdot\cdot\cdot p_n+ 1 is certainly not divisible by any of p_1, p_2, ..., p_n. Therefore it is either a prime itself or is divisible by a prime larger than any of p_1, p_2, ..., p_n. In either case there must be a prime less than or equal to p_1p_2\cdot\cdot\cdot p_n+ 1
 
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icystrike said:

Homework Statement



This is part of Euclid's proof such that he says:
1)

p_{n+1} smaller or equal to p_{1}p_{2}...p_{n}+1
Such that p_n is to denote some prime
I am wondering if anyone could provide me with an elegant prove to the above inequality as i am new to number theory.

It is not very elegant but the proof follows from the principles of order on the real number field.

Considering positive primes: given p_{1} < p_{2}, then it follows that p_{1} < p_{1}^2 < p_{1} \cdot p_{2}, by inductive reasoning you can prove that p_{n+1}<p_{n+1} \cdot p_{1} < p_{n+1} \cdot p_{1} \cdot p_{2}, and so on.
 
Am I understanding the question right? It seems to come quite simply by noting that the primes are larger than 1. We can even omit the equality option of the inequality at a glance.
 
Thank you for all your replies (=

I think I'm able to understand the concept.
Please tell me your opinions on my proof below.Let P_{1}P_{2}...P_{n} +1 =N
Such that N is an element of positive integer.
Thus, it suggest N is co-prime to P_{1},P_{2}, ... ,P_{n}Which may be a prime number that is P_{k}
Such that k is a value larger or equal to n+1 OR

It may be a composite number that is larger than P_{n+1} as the smallest possible divisor of N should be P_{n+1} . Noting N is co-prime to P_{1},P_{2}, ... ,P_{n} .
 
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