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Apparently we've done so good of a job at preventing terrorism in NYC and DC, we overdid it! We're so redundantly over-safe, we should drastically cut back.
WASHINGTON - The two cities targeted in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks will receive far less counterterrorism money this year in what the Homeland Security Department described Wednesday as an effort to spread funding to other communities facing threats.

Officials noted a $119 million cut in the total funds available for the 2006 fiscal year from last year. In all, 46 cities will share $710 million in Homeland Security grants to prevent and respond to terror attacks and, to a lesser extent, other catastrophic disasters like hurricanes...

"At the end of the day our job is to make sure that we apply resources in an appropriate manner across the full breadth of this nation so that we get the maximum benefit out of those dollars," Homeland Security Undersecretary George Foresman told reporters in Washington.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060531/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cities_terrorism [Broken]

Yes, that's exactly how you get maximum benefit... :uhh: (who are these idiots?)

(Not that any of this ever had any effect, other than PR...)
 
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I just had a quick thought and idea of terrorism/Sept 11/and U.S overall and what I said was wrong however it gave a base for another idea.
 
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Pengwuino

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So you're saying we get maximum benefit by dumping all the money into 2 cities? I didn't know NYC and DC have 300 million citizens....
 
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So you think terrorists are going to blow up a ranch in Whyoming?
 

Pengwuino

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Rach3 said:
So you think terrorists are going to blow up a ranch in Whyoming?
What a sad sad stereotype.
 
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Well then, smarty pants. I'm in charges of awarding grants, and you're the governor of Why-oh-Why-oming. You tell me why you want $75 million in DHS money, what you plan to do with it, and how it'll make your state safer from terrorists.
 

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How bout you tell me why 2 cities deserve 3/4 of a billion dollars while everyone else gets to rot. How much do you want to bet that if Las Vegas or the California central valley or San Fran was hit, you'd complain about uneven appropriations?
 
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Hundreds of extra police officers patrolling subways. Metal detectors, surveillance cameras. Concrete barriers around buildings.

I'm not advocating disenfranchising the rest of the country, I'm just pointing out that there are at most ten cities which can reasonbly call themselves targets of international terrorism. Any other cities would be flattering themselves to be in that position. Las Vegas is an obvious symbolic target; suburban California is not. NYC has a super-high concentration of viable symbolic targets. The decision is yours.
 

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Hundreds of extra police officers patrolling subways. Metal detectors, surveillance cameras. Concrete barriers around buildings.
According to this forum, those don't work, sorry.
 
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But it's good PR. Makes you look busy.
 

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Rach3 said:
I'm not advocating disenfranchising the rest of the country, I'm just pointing out that there are at most ten cities which can reasonbly call themselves targets of international terrorism. Any other cities would be flattering themselves to be in that position. Las Vegas is an obvious symbolic target; suburban California is not. NYC has a super-high concentration of viable symbolic targets. The decision is yours.
You hit an agricultural center and you'll get nationwide chaos. Probably not because of any actual danger, but how insane are people when it comes to their food? People think GE food will eat unsuspecting normal food. They're nuts
 
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Exactly. A suicide bomber drives into a cornfield, so the whole nation panics over the lost food.
 

Pengwuino

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Rach3 said:
Exactly. A suicide bomber drives into a cornfield, so the whole nation panics over the lost food.
sure thing boss :rolleyes:
 
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Your idea, not mine.
 

Pengwuino

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Your idea, not mine.
Im glad you aren't working for DHS....
 
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I'm glad you're not working anywhere.
 
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I think it's funny you equate ever city thats NOT New York or D.C. to "A wheat field in Wyoming"

There are many cities that I promise you are on potential target lists for Terrorist groups.

Is Oklahoma City the "middle of a wheat field"? (and it is irrelevant that it was a domestic terrorist in that case)

Here is a story I heard about some time ago about a man who appeared to be doing alot of research on the "structural integrity" of some sky scrapers in Charlotte N.C.

http://www.wcnc.com/news/topstories/stories/wcnc-081004-al-terrorist_arrest.62f5ce3e.html [Broken]

Charlotte (pop. 540,828)
http://www.city-data.com/city/North-Carolina.html

Charlotte isn't New York by any means, but it is the Banking Capital of the U.S. and clearly not "a wheat field"
 
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Seeing what happend on 9/11 I don't think there's could be such a thing as too safe.
 

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I think that New York and DC are not very god places to spend our HS money. They've already been hit. The pattern of terrorism seems to be that they never do the same thing twice. This keeps them unpredictable, which is to their benefit. I'm afraid that while we've got our attention focussed on places they've hit in the past, they'll strike somewhere else.

I'm sure that a terrorist trying to make a statement would be alot more interested in hitting new targets than in re-hitting old ones. Having already made their point about NY and DC, I would expect them to hit Vegas or Hollywood next. They've made their statement about our politics, now they'll want to say something about our morality.

A widespread attack on Christian Churches wouldn't be any great suprise, either, it just requires more people than they've got. But maybe a Billy Graham crusade; couple hundred thousand people all in one place, millions watching on live TV, lots of limelite.
 

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The only threat to US citizens is through programs like 24 and NCIS. On an average day you got 20 cops patrolling Dunkin Donuts here in NYC.
 

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