Observational Difference Between Neutron Star & Black Hole

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The discussion centers on distinguishing between neutron stars and black holes, emphasizing that observational evidence is often indirect. Black holes, particularly those with significant mass, can be inferred from the behavior of nearby stars, while neutron stars can be identified through pulsar signals if their rotational axes align with our line of sight. Accretion disks around black holes can produce X-rays that exceed the brightness of neutron stars, providing another distinguishing feature. However, conclusive evidence for black holes remains elusive, as they cannot be directly observed. Ultimately, while certain characteristics can differentiate the two, ambiguity persists in some cases.
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What is the observational difference between a neutron star and a black hole? Is the evidence conclusive, or is it based on a strong reasonability argument?
 
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turin said:
What is the observational difference between a neutron star and a black hole? Is the evidence conclusive, or is it based on a strong reasonability argument?

part of the answer is obvious and you know already---hope you will be patient if I mention it, just to narrow down the question

some of the BH astronomers observe are too massive to be neutron stars

the black hole at center of our galaxy has mass of several million solar
as measured by watching a star whip around it----results and analysis are online, it was ESO that observed it, but I don't have the links handy

the narrowed-down question is then
what are the observational difference between a n-star and a stellar mass BH?

Basically I'm going to wait and hear what the more knowledgeable people say---but I will speculate that you can't always tell the difference or be sure which you are looking at. What would let you tell the difference is if there was a lot of stuff falling into the hole----so the accretion disk is very hot and bright in X-ray... there would be an X-ray temperature and brightness too great for a neutron start to produce.

Another case would be of a pulsar, from the magnetic field frozen in the n-star, and the poles of the magnetic field not aligned with the axis of rotation. I can't imagine how a BH could imitate a pulsar signal.

what i think it may come down to is that you can distinguish between n-star and BH in certain cases but not always

apologies for rushing ahead with speculation---very curious to hear what
the authoritative word on this is
 
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