On liquid oscillation excitation

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of liquid oscillation excitation, specifically focusing on the resonance that may occur when a hand's oscillation frequency aligns with the natural frequency of the first antisymmetric mode (FAM) of liquid in a cylindrical container. The scope includes theoretical considerations of resonance in periodic driving forces and the implications of harmonic frequencies observed during walking.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant analyzes the frequency spectrum of hand oscillation while walking, noting distinct harmonic frequencies that relate to liquid oscillation in a container.
  • Another participant suggests that resonance can occur with periodic excitation, regardless of the wave shape, supporting the initial claim about resonance and proposing alternative phrasing for clarity.
  • A later reply indicates that an important aspect may have been overlooked in the initial analysis, suggesting further investigation is warranted.

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Participants generally agree that resonance can occur with periodic excitation, but there is an indication of potential oversight in the analysis that remains unresolved.

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The discussion does not clarify the specific conditions under which resonance occurs or the implications of the overlooked aspect mentioned in the later reply.

Jiwon Han
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(I'm new to the Forum, so if I violate the rules unknowingly, please do let me know)
So, during a recent research, I analyzed the frequency spectrum of our hand's oscillation while walking.
As it turns out, it contains distinct harmonic frequencies (around 1.8*n Hz), and the second among them corresponds to the natural frequency of the first antisymmetric mode (FAM) of liquid oscillation inside an upright cylindrical container with radius 8cm and height 9cm.

Would the following statement be physically sound?
"Since the driving force (exerted by the hand, and subsequently the cup) contains a frequency component that corresponds to the natural frequency of the FAM, resonance occurs for the FAM."

Or does resonance only occur when a purely sinusoidal signal is imposed upon the system?
Thanks.
 
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Jiwon Han said:
(I'm new to the Forum, so if I violate the rules unknowingly, please do let me know)
So, during a recent research, I analyzed the frequency spectrum of our hand's oscillation while walking.
As it turns out, it contains distinct harmonic frequencies (around 1.8*n Hz), and the second among them corresponds to the natural frequency of the first antisymmetric mode (FAM) of liquid oscillation inside an upright cylindrical container with radius 8cm and height 9cm.

Would the following statement be physically sound?
"Since the driving force (exerted by the hand, and subsequently the cup) contains a frequency component that corresponds to the natural frequency of the FAM, resonance occurs for the FAM."

Or does resonance only occur when a purely sinusoidal signal is imposed upon the system?
Thanks.

Resonance can be observed with excitation that is periodic; the excitation need not be any particular wave shape. Your statement is valid. It might read better were it expressed: "... the periodic driving force ..." or "... the driving force function ...", or "... the motion of the hand (and consequently of the cup) ...".
 
NascentOxygen said:
Resonance can be observed with excitation that is periodic; the excitation need not be any particular wave shape. Your statement is valid. It might read better were it expressed: "... the periodic driving force ..." or "... the driving force function ...", or "... the motion of the hand (and consequently of the cup) ...".
thanks a lot! :)
 
Mr. Jiwon Han, in your research you overlooked an important aspect which I feel would be eye opening once tested!
 

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