Optical design: BPP beam parameter product M^2 and beam expander

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The discussion focuses on the effects of using a non-ideal beam expander on multimode laser beams, specifically how the M^2 parameter changes. It is noted that while ideal beam expanders are designed for single mode beams (M^2=1), the output from a non-ideal expander can result in a higher M^2 value, such as 5. Participants are trying to determine whether the output M^2 from an input beam with M^2=30 would be calculated as the sum (30+5) or the product (30*5) of the two values. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the phenomena rather than strictly adhering to the M^2 definition, as it is a property of the beam itself. Overall, the aim is to predict the behavior of beam expanders when applied to multimode laser beams.
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We work on optical simulation where we use not ideal beam expander.
Not ideal means that for beam expander designed for single mode (M^2=1), the output beam has M^2 >1 (M^2 = M squared)

In our system we want to use beam expander with multimode laser beam.
The beam expander is not ideal (for example M^2 after beam expander is 5 instead of 1).
What will be M^2 of the output beam if the M^2 of the input beam is 30: 30+5 OR 30*5 ?

Of course M^2 is not well defined parameter, what is important to us is to understand the phenomena in this case.

I hope I am in right place :-)
Thanks!
 
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