Orbit Transfer to Lower Apoapsis of a Mars Orbit

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The discussion focuses on calculating the delta-V required for an orbit transfer to lower the apoapsis of a Mars mapping orbit. The initial orbit has a periapsis radius of 3800 km and an eccentricity of 0.5, with the final apoapsis set to 5700 km. Participants clarify that the radius used in calculations should be the distance from the center of Mars, not the surface. The initial and final semi-major axes were calculated as 7600 km and 4750 km, respectively, leading to an initial velocity of 4.43 km/s and a final velocity of 4.03 km/s, resulting in a delta-V of -0.4 km/s. The consensus is that the calculations appear correct, provided the proper radius is used.
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Homework Statement


Consider an orbit transfer to lower the apoapsis of a Mars mapping orbit. The initial orbit has a periapsis radius of 3800 km and an eccentricity of 0.5. The final apoapsis radius is to be 1/2 of the initial one. Note that only one burn at periapsis is needed to perform this change and that the periapsis radius of the final orbit is the same as the initial orbit. Find the \Delta V required.


Homework Equations


General Velocity Equation: V=\sqrt{{2\mu/R}-{\mu/a}}, where \mu=GM, and a is the semi-major axis

Relation of radii to semi-major axis: r_p + r_a = 2a, where r_p is the radius at periapsis, and r_a is the radius at apoapsis


The Attempt at a Solution


First I calculated the radius at initial apoapsis using the formula r_a = r_p((1+\epsilon)/(1-\epsilon))

I got 11400 km, which means the final apoapsis is 5700 km.

Using the relation for radii to semi-major axis I calculated the initial semi-major axis and got 7600 km. Doing the same for the final semi-major axis, I got 4750 km.

Then, I used the general velocity relation to find the initial and final velocities based on the respective a value, the value for \mu (mass of Mars times the Gravitational Constant, given in my textbook to be 4.293 E4 km^3/s^2), and the radius of Mars (3397 km).

I got an initial velocity of 4.43 km/s and a final velocity of 4.03 km/s, resulting in a \Delta V of -0.4 km/s. I assume the negative value points to the fact that the delta V needs to be applied in the reverse direction to slow the vehicle down, resulting in a smaller apoapsis.

I just did this on a wing so I don't know if it is correct. Am I missing something here or does this seem correct?
 
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ColdFusion85 said:

Homework Equations


General Velocity Equation: V=\sqrt{{2\mu/R}-{\mu/a}}, where \mu=GM, and a is the semi-major axis

Relation of radii to semi-major axis: r_p + r_a = 2a, where r_p is the radius at periapsis, and r_a is the radius at apoapsis

This R is not the planetary radius. Think about it. Suppose you wanted to transfer from a circular orbit of radius a to a circular orbit of the same radius (i.e., no change in orbit). The delta-V for this maneuver is zero. You do not get zero if you use the planetary radius.
 
yeah, R is just the distance from Mars
 
The distance from the center of Mars, to be precise. The distance from Mars does involve the radius. It is the vehicle's altitude.
 
D H said:
This R is not the planetary radius. Think about it. Suppose you wanted to transfer from a circular orbit of radius a to a circular orbit of the same radius (i.e., no change in orbit). The delta-V for this maneuver is zero. You do not get zero if you use the planetary radius.

I understand why the delta V would be zero if you did not want to change altitude, but why would you not get zero if you use the planetary radius? \mu and the apoapsis would not change if you were at the same distance.

I am still confused as to what R I am supposed to use then. Is it the radius of Mars plus the distance to apoapsis? Or is it R the distance of Mars from the Sun?
 
ColdFusion85 said:
I understand why the delta V would be zero if you did not want to change altitude, but why would you not get zero if you use the planetary radius? \mu and the apoapsis would not change if you were at the same distance.

Yeah, I agree... don't see why delta V wouldn't be zero but...

I am still confused as to what R I am supposed to use then. Is it the radius of Mars plus the distance to apoapsis? Or is it R the distance of Mars from the Sun?

I think R is the distance of the orbiting body from the center of mass of the body being orbitted, as DH mentioned. ie... distance of the orbiting body from the center of mass of Mars.

In this case wouldn't it just be the periapsis radius?
 
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I used R= Radius of Mars + Distance to Periapsis. Is this correct? I figure if the delta V burn is going to be performed at the periapsis where the velocity vector is tangental to the radial component, the R at that point is the Radius to the surface of Mars (3397km) + the distance to the periapsis (3800km). Does this seem correct?
 
ColdFusion85 said:
I used R= Radius of Mars + Distance to Periapsis. Is this correct? I figure if the delta V burn is going to be performed at the periapsis where the velocity vector is tangental to the radial component, the R at that point is the Radius to the surface of Mars (3397km) + the distance to the periapsis (3800km). Does this seem correct?

I thought the periapsis and apoapsis radius was measured from the center of mass of Mars... I'm not sure about this.
 
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You are correct. I just read that the periapsis is "the least distance of the elliptical orbit of an astronomical object from its center of attraction, which is generally the center of mass of the system."

So, I just use R=3800 km, and everything else looks alright?
 
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learningphysics said:
I thought the periapsis and apoapsis radius was measured from the center of mass of Mars... I'm not sure about this.

That's correct.

ColdFusion, if you are working with altitudes rather than distance from the center of the planet, everything you did in computing the eccentricity and semi-major axis is wrong. While apoapsis and periapsis sometimes are referenced with respect to planet surface, the semi-major axis never is. The equations you used for eccentricity implicitly assume planet-centered apoapsis/perapsis.

If these are indeed distances from the center of the planet, the only thing you did wrong was to add the planet radius to them.
 
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ColdFusion85 said:
You are correct. I just read that the periapsis is "the least distance of the elliptical orbit of an astronomical object from its center of attraction, which is generally the center of mass of the system."

So, I just use R=3800 km, and everything else looks alright?

I think so.. initial a = 7600km... final a = 4750km... R = 3800km... looks right.
 
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