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An ordered set is defined such that for any elements x and y, one of the conditions x < y, y < x, or x = y holds true, and it adheres to transitivity. A field must satisfy axioms of addition, multiplication, and distribution, but the discussion highlights confusion regarding the implications of equality. The concept of equality is reflexive, symmetric, and transitive, which is not explicitly stated in the definitions from Rudin's "Principles of Mathematical Analysis." The lack of clarity on these properties in the context of fields and ordered sets leads to misunderstandings. Understanding these foundational definitions is crucial for grasping the structure of mathematical concepts.
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Hi everyone,
an ordered set is a set S that for any x,y in S, there is a order definition "<" so that one and only one of the followings will be true:
x<y, y<x, x=y.
and also if x<y, y<z and x,y,z in S, then x<z.
but there is no such a definition that if x=y,y=z and x,y,z in S, then x=y=z and also a definition like x=x if x is in S.

An filed(F) should fullfill the axioms of addition,mulplification and distribution law.
from the addition axiom we can get the proposition that if x+y=x+z then y=z by following proof:
y=0+y=(-x+x)+y=-x+(x+y)
given above condition x+y=x+z then
y=-x+x+z=0+z=z.
but there is no such a definition or axioms that if x=y,a=b and x,y,z,b are in F, then x+a=y+b.
it really confuse me about "if x=y,y=z then x=z".
could you help me?
thanks.
 
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Where did you get the idea that "there is no such a definition that if x=y,y=z and x,y,z in S, then x=y=z and also a definition like x=x if x is in S"? Equality is reflexive, symmetric, and transitive.
 


D H said:
Where did you get the idea that "there is no such a definition that if x=y,y=z and x,y,z in S, then x=y=z and also a definition like x=x if x is in S"? Equality is reflexive, symmetric, and transitive.

Hi DH,
thank you for your reply.
I get the definition of order, ordered set, filed, from rudin's book principles of mathematical analysis. In this books there is no definition or axiom like if x=y,y=z. then x=z. I did not see any definition of equality with reflexive,symmetric and transitive.
 


You will not see it in a definition of field (not "filled" or "filed") because it is part of the definition of "=" itself which is primitive to field.
 
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