Oversampling and phase retrieval in Fraunhofer diffraction

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of oversampling and phase retrieval in the context of Fraunhofer diffraction. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of reconstructing an original object from its diffraction pattern, including the conditions necessary for successful phase retrieval and the use of software tools for this purpose.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a diffraction pattern can be used to uniquely reconstruct the original object if certain oversampling conditions are met, and inquires about available phase retrieval programs.
  • Another participant explains that a 2D diffraction pattern can be transformed into an image using a 2D Fourier transform available in MATLAB, referencing the use of transmission electron microscopes (TEM) to illustrate this process.
  • It is noted that precise phase retrieval is not possible without additional information, highlighting the "Phase Problem" in diffraction analysis.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the conditions under which phase retrieval is possible and requests clarification on the necessary conditions and algorithms for phase retrieval.
  • References to specific papers by Fineup and Gerchberg-Saxton are suggested for further reading on the topic.

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Participants express differing views on the conditions necessary for phase retrieval and the methods to achieve it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific requirements for successful phase retrieval and the algorithms involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the loss of phase information in Fraunhofer diffraction and the need for iterative algorithms to retrieve it, indicating that the discussion involves complex mathematical and theoretical considerations that are not fully resolved.

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I am a Grade 11 student and am working on a physics research about Fraunhofer diffraction. I have 2 very basic questions (maybe kind of unprofessional). Hope someone can help.

1.Suppose a beam of coherent, monochromatic, parallel light penetrates an object, and a diffraction pattern forms on the far-field screen. As long as the oversampling ratio satisfies certain conditions, we can use the diffraction pattern to uniquely reconstruct the original object, using phase retrieval program. Is that the case?
If so, where I can download a phase retrieval program for Fraunhofer diffraction? I want a program that I can simply input an image of a diffraction pattern, and the program can generate the image of the original object. Is that possible? Or I can program it on MATLAB?

2. What is "oversampling to a diffraction pattern"? And the oversampling ratio? Is it that surround the original object (electron density region) with empty space (no-density region); the area of the empty space measures the extent of oversampling? Or, use different resolution to record the same diffraction pattern?
I read some articles found on Google Scholar, but I am a little confused.

Thanks for the help!
 
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The 2D diffraction pattern can be transformed into an image via the 2D Fourier transform. This is available in MATLAB.

Consider the transmission electron microscope (TEM):

1. In diffraction mode the screen shows the 2D diffraction pattern of a crystal
2. When switched to imaging mode the screen shows the crystal

The "switching" is simply the introduction of an additional magnetic lens, which performs the Fourier transform

See http://micron.ucr.edu/public/manuals/Tem-intro.pdf Additional:

It is not possible to retrieve the precise phase without further information. This is known as "The Phase Problem". In the case of simple diffraction patterns there are only a few possibilities, and all can be tried. In the case of a lens, the phase information has not been lost; it is present in the traveling wave.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_retrieval
and http://digitus.itk.ppke.hu/~matyi/optika/Phase_Diversity/AO82_PRComparison1.pdf

This is a very mathematical subject.
 
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UltrafastPED said:
The 2D diffraction pattern can be transformed into an image via the 2D Fourier transform. This is available in MATLAB.

Consider the transmission electron microscope (TEM):

1. In diffraction mode the screen shows the 2D diffraction pattern of a crystal
2. When switched to imaging mode the screen shows the crystal

The "switching" is simply the introduction of an additional magnetic lens, which performs the Fourier transform

See http://micron.ucr.edu/public/manuals/Tem-intro.pdf

Thanks for your answer. Maybe I did not explain my problems very clearly.

I guess you used the TEM equipment to show that the diffraction pattern can be Fourier transformed back to the original image. Yet I think that we cannot directly inverse Fourier transform the diffraction pattern because it is only a graph showing the intensity of light; the phase information is lost in Fraunhofer diffraction. Therefore we have to use iterative algorithms to retrieve the phase before we can get the image.

The problem is in what situations the phase can be uniquely retrieved. Some people say that certain oversampling conditions should be satisfied. My main problems are:

1. What conditions have to be satisfied to make the phase retrieval possible?
2. If the phase retrieval condition is satisfied, how can we retrieve the phase and get the image? (i.e. the algorithm)

Please explain more about it if you are willing to. Thanks a lot!
 
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It's been a while since I did any of this but look for papers by Fineup and Gerchberg-Saxton.
 

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