Paradox found in my first relativity sheet

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The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity involving a rod and a slit. The rod is described as being 1 meter long and traveling at 0.8c at a 45-degree angle to the x-axis, while the slit is parallel to the x-axis and 1.1 meters wide. The original poster is exploring whether the rod fits through the slit from different reference frames.

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  • The original poster attempts to analyze the problem by focusing on the x-component of the rod's velocity and questioning the relevance of the y-component. Some participants question the interpretation of the rod's and slit’s dimensions from different frames of reference, particularly regarding the effects of relativistic length contraction.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering diagrams to clarify their points. There is a recognition of differing interpretations regarding the motion of the slit and the rod, but no explicit consensus has been reached on how to resolve the paradox presented.

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There is an indication that the participants are working within the constraints of an introductory understanding of special relativity, which may limit their ability to fully resolve the paradox. The original poster has expressed confusion about the implications of the rod's angle and the behavior of the slit in different frames.

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We have got some SR work to do, however we have only had 1 introductory lecture. I have a problem with one of the problems.

Question: A rod of 1m parrallel to the x-axis, travels at un-relativistic speeds at 45 degrees. It passes through a slit - also parallel to the x-axis - that is 1.1 meters wide.

Now assume the rod travels at 0.8c, does it fit through, look at it from both viewpoints, the rod and the slit?

In short, my answer was: I only need to look at the x velocity, y velocity will not cause the slit to shrink. X vlecocity = 0.8cos45 c

If you look at it from the slit's frame, the rod shrinks to about 0.8m and still fits. However if you look at it from the rod's frame, the slit shrinks to 0.9m, the rod doesn't fit.

How is this paradox resolved?
 
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What happens to the "parallel to the x-axis" condition?
The y velocity is relevant.
 
Toby_phys said:
We have got some SR work to do, however we have only had 1 introductory lecture. I have a problem with one of the problems.

Question: A rod of 1m parrallel to the x-axis, travels at un-relativistic speeds at 45 degrees. It passes through a slit - also parallel to the x-axis - that is 1.1 meters wide.

Now assume the rod travels at 0.8c, does it fit through, look at it from both viewpoints, the rod and the slit?

In short, my answer was: I only need to look at the x velocity, y velocity will not cause the slit to shrink. X vlecocity = 0.8cos45 c

If you look at it from the slit's frame, the rod shrinks to about 0.8m and still fits. However if you look at it from the rod's frame, the slit shrinks to 0.9m, the rod doesn't fit.

How is this paradox resolved?
No. in the rod's rest-frame the slit does NOT shrink; it is perpendicular to the direction of motion, so is not affected.
 
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Here is a diagram. How is the slit perpendicular to the motion
 
Toby_phys said:
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Here is a diagram. How is the slit perpendicular to the motion

Sorry; I mis-read the question.
 

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