Parallel Axis Theorem and interia tensors

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The discussion revolves around the validity of the parallel axis theorem for inertia tensors, particularly in the context of both 2D and 3D objects, such as hemispheres. Participants explore the mathematical formulation of the theorem and its application to different geometries.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the parallel axis theorem is valid for 3D objects, specifically asking about its application to a hemisphere.
  • Another participant suggests that the theorem can be applied by using the distance projected from the axis being measured.
  • A mathematical formulation of the parallel axis theorem is presented, detailing the relationship between the inertia tensor about a point and the inertia tensor about the center of mass.
  • One participant corrects the notation in the mathematical expression provided, emphasizing the correct form of the equation and its implications for calculating the moment of inertia.
  • A later reply discusses the reverse application of the theorem, indicating that if the inertia tensor at the base of a hemisphere is known, it can be used to find the tensor for the center of mass.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the application of the parallel axis theorem to 3D objects, with some agreeing on its validity while others seek clarification on specific cases. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the general applicability of the theorem in all scenarios.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the geometry of objects and the conditions under which the parallel axis theorem is applied. The discussion does not resolve these assumptions or the implications of the corrections made to the mathematical expressions.

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Is the parallel axis theorem always valid for inertia tensors? We have only seen examples with flat (2d) objects and was wondering if it would also be valid for 3d objects, like a h emisphere, for example. Thanks.
 
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Yep, just use the distance projected from the axis that it's being measured around.
 
The general form for the parallel axis theorem is

[tex]\mathbf{J} = \mathbf{I} + m(r^2\mathbf{1} - \boldsymbol{r}\boldsymbol{r}^T)[/tex]

where

[itex]\mathbf{J}[/itex] is the inertia tensor of some object about some point removed from the center of mass,
[itex]\mathbf{I}[/itex] is the inertia tensor of the object about its center of mass
[itex]m[/itex] is the object's mass
[itex]\boldsymbol{r}[/itex] is the displacement of the point in question from the center of mass, expressed as a column vector
[itex]\mathbf{1}[/itex] is the identity matrix.
 
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I think you meant [tex]\mathbf{J} = \mathbf{I} + m(r^2\mathbf{1} - \mathbf{r}\mathbf{r}^T)[/tex], because [tex]\mathbf{r}^T \mathbf{r} = r^2[/tex], which is not even the right type of tensor.

To show that this gives the correct moment of inertia about a certain axis, let e be a unit vector giving the direction of this axis. Then the moment of inertia about this axis is
[tex]\mathbf{e}^T\mathbf{Je}<br /> = \mathbf{e}^T \mathbf{Ie} + m(r^2 \mathbf{e}^T\mathbf{1e} - \mathbf{e}^T\mathbf{rr}^T\mathbf{e})[/tex]
[tex]= \mathbf{e}^T \mathbf{Ie} + mr^2 - m(\mathbf{r} \cdot \mathbf{e})^2[/tex]
[tex]= \mathbf{e}^T \mathbf{Ie} + mr_\perp^2[/tex], where [tex]r_\perp[/tex] is the perpendicular distance from the centre of mass to the axis.
 
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adriank said:
I think you meant [tex]\mathbf{J} = \mathbf{I} + m(r^2\mathbf{1} - \mathbf{r}\mathbf{r}^T)[/tex]
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Oops. I corrected my post, thanks.
 
so does that mean if we find the inertia tensor at the center of the base of a hemisphere we can use the parallel axis theorem to find the tensor for the center of mass
 
Yes, but in reverse. You know J, and you must find [tex]\mathbf{I} = \mathbf{J} - m(r^2 \mathbf{1} - \mathbf{rr}^T)[/tex].
 

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