Paralleling and Series Battery going dead question

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The discussion revolves around the charging and configuration of batteries in a system intended for use with a 24V inverter. Participants explore the implications of connecting batteries in series and parallel, the effects of charging configurations, and the potential risks associated with different battery capacities.

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  • One participant questions what would happen to a single battery when the truck is running and only two of the three batteries are being charged, wondering if it would discharge or remain at 12V.
  • Another participant suggests that connecting all batteries in parallel for charging and then switching one into series for 24V use might be a viable solution, although they acknowledge potential issues with overcharging.
  • A participant clarifies that the yellow lines in the diagram indicate where to connect for 24V, emphasizing the need for a 24V supply to charge a 24V battery.
  • Concerns are raised about the risks of having batteries of different capacities in series, with a warning that this could lead to overcharging the single battery on the left.
  • One participant expresses a desire to avoid using switches for the configuration, while still seeking a way to charge all three batteries simultaneously.

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Participants express differing views on the best configuration for charging and using the batteries. There is no consensus on the optimal solution, and multiple competing ideas are presented regarding the risks and methods of connecting the batteries.

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Participants note limitations regarding the compatibility of battery types and the potential for overcharging when batteries of different capacities are used together. The discussion does not resolve these concerns.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in battery configurations for inverters, particularly those exploring the implications of series and parallel connections in mixed-capacity systems.

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I attached a pic of what I am trying to do. Now if the alternator is 12V I can charge the 2 batteries on the right but I can't charge the battery on the left without taking the blue wire off. I have a 24V inverter that is 1500watt and was wondering what would happen to the battery on the left if I had the truck running so the 2 batteries on the right stayed charged but the left battery was not being charged. Would it simply discharge and I be back to 12V or what exactly would happen? Is there any way at all to charge all 3 batteries at the same time without sending 24V to the truck and blowing all the circuits up, but still have a connection for 24V hookup?
 

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Presuming that all those batteries are 12v and the same type, I believe putting 24v across them, as you show with the yellow line, will charge them all. However I further believe that the two in parallel will not be fully charged -- or conversely -- the single one will over-charge...

I'm not sure what you are attempting to do, but probably the easiest thing would be to put all the batteries in parallel, charge them, and then switch one out into the series connection to get your 24v. A DPDT switch with the necessary current rating would do nicely.
 
The yellow lines were just to show where I could get 24V from, not the charge voltage. I want to charge it with my truck so it has to be able to charge with 12v and not send 24v back into my truck. I want to charge all 3 batteries but also have a spot to hit off of for getting 24V for the inverter. The blue line is where the batteries go into a series. I have read about the switch but just wonder if there was a way to do it without them. I also still wonder about the scenario of running the inverter with the truck charging the 2 batteries on the right and not the one on the left, would it kill the battery on the left or what?

Thanks
 
The yellow wires are also where you would have to connect a 24v charger.
To charge a 24v battery you need a 24++v supply, can't be otherwise... So I think your best option is to do what I said before and switch them all into parallel, charge, then switch one into series to use.
 
Dang! Thanks for the help!
 
In general it's not a good idea to have batteries of different capacity in series...that's what you have with the two batteries on the right in series with one on the left. As Schipp implies, over time you'll over charge the single battery on the left.

If you want to power a 24 volt inverter on a regular basis, use two similar batteries in series rather than the arrangement of three you have pictured.
 
I guess I will just get rid of it and get a 12V one. You guys have been a great help!
 

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