Parllel Plate Capcitor separation distance and voltage

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The discussion revolves around calculating various properties of a parallel plate capacitor, including capacitance, charge, electric field, and energy stored, both when connected to a 12V battery and after disconnecting the battery and increasing the plate separation. The participant successfully solves the initial questions but struggles with the implications of disconnecting the battery, leading to confusion about charge conservation and voltage changes. It is clarified that when the battery is disconnected, the charge on the plates remains constant, despite the capacitance halving due to increased separation. The importance of considering energy and work done in the system is emphasized, as pulling the plates apart increases energy due to their attraction. Understanding these principles helps reconcile the mathematical and physical aspects of the problem.
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Hello,

I'm studying for an exam tomorrow and am facing a question I can't for the life of me fathom.

" A PP air capacitor is made by using to plates 16 cm squared, spaced 4.7 mm apart, connected to a 12V battery"

Find Capacitance, charge on each plate, electric field between plated, energy stored in the capacitor. If the battery is disconnected and then the plated pulled apart to a separation of 9.4 mm repeat answers.

I have no problem solving the first round of questions but when repeating with the new distance as expected capacitance halves.

using C=Q/V i try and figure out Q (Q=CV)
mathematically i expect Q to halve since Capacitance has also halved
physically i know there's been no change in charge
Since it is connected to a battery i can't justify in my mind the voltage increasing to 24V in order to harmonize my physical answer and my mathematical answer...
I think I am making mountains out of mole hills... i guess exam season will sometimes throw logic out the window.

help please?
 
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If you disconnect the battery and keep the parallel plates unconnected, then the one thing you can be certain is that the charge on the plates stay the same. This is because there is no longer any circuit path for charge to migrate between the plates (unless the dielectric between the plates breaksdown but that is not a situation we usually consider and certainly won't happen here since separating the plates a larger distance can only decrease the electric field).

So rework your equations under assumptions that you know the area, distance of separation, and charge on the plates.
 
Note that pulling apart the plates adds energy since they are oppositely charged and attract each other. Considering work helps solve many physics problems.
 
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