Partial derivatives using definition

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The discussion revolves around finding partial derivatives f'x, f'y, f''xx, f''yy, and f''xy for a function f(x,y) at the point (2,3) using the definition of derivatives. The user successfully calculates the first partial derivatives, f'x and f'y, but struggles with the second derivatives due to the lack of an explicit function. It is noted that second partial derivatives can be derived from the first partial derivatives. The user expresses confusion about applying the limit definition for the second derivatives without a clear example. The conversation highlights the challenge of working with limited information and the need for further guidance on the second derivatives.
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Homework Statement


We are given a table where showing the points x and y and values of a function f(x,y).
The function itself is not given.
I have to find the partial derivatives f'x, f'y, f''xx, f''yy and f''xy around the point (2,3).


Homework Equations


I have to use the definition :
f'x(2,3) = lim (h-->0) [f(2+h,3) - f(2,3)] / h


The Attempt at a Solution


Ok. So I easily found f'x and f'y. (h is found by looking at the xs and ys, h for f'x = -1 and 2 for f'y).
My problem is finding the f''. My teacher is the kind that shows one definition and gives one example. I don't know how to find the f''s.

If someone could just point the way, I'd be grateful.
Thanks!
 
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The definition of the second partials is just the partial derivatives of the first partials. Why couldn't you just use the same method as before?
 
Well I know. It's easy to find the partial derivatives when we have the function. That I can find.
But as I said, we have just done one example with the "definition", so I quite don't see how.

It's like d[df/dx]/dx
When you derivate the function you just assume y as constant.
But when it comes to lim f(a+h,b)-f(a,b)/h, I just don't know how to express it.

f'x = 0 and f'y = 2
f''xx(2,3) = f'x [f(2+h, 3) - f(2,3) /h]
= f(2+2h, 3) - f(2,3)/h ?

I don't know really.
And then again, I'm quite stupid :D
 
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