Partial Fractions - Deduce the Equation for given fractions

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The discussion revolves around deducing the partial fractions for the expression (1+5x+30x^2)/((1-x)(1+8x^2)). Participants debate the appropriate method to deduce the fractions, with one suggesting a substitution method that connects to a previously given equation. Another participant points out that the initial assumption of the form of the partial fractions was incorrect, indicating that it should include a linear term in the numerator for one of the fractions. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly identifying the structure of partial fractions before attempting to deduce or solve them. Ultimately, the focus remains on understanding the correct approach to deducing the partial fractions as specified in the question.
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Given

\frac{2+5x+15x^2}{\left (2-x\right )\left (1+2x^2\right )}=\frac{8}{2-x} + \frac{x-3}{1+2x^2}<br />

I am asked to deduce the partial fractions of:

\frac{1+5x+30x^2}{\left (1-x\right )\left (1+8x^2\right )}

I can solve it using my usual method, but that's not what the question requires. Any help? I can't see the link between the two.
 
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what is your USUAL method, and can people help you without knowing how UNUSUAL is not your USUAL?

\frac{1+5x+30x^2}{\left (1-x\right )\left (1+8x^2\right )}=\frac{A}{1-x} + \frac{B}{1+8x^2}

and solve for A and B... this is the standard approach, is my method UNUSUAL?
 
i have a not so usual method... substitude x=2u in your first equation... and you will get the second one. is this what you looking for?
 
Yes, that's my usual way of solving such questions. But I still don't get it...
 
vincentchan said:
what is your USUAL method, and can people help you without knowing how UNUSUAL is not your USUAL?

\frac{1+5x+30x^2}{\left (1-x\right )\left (1+8x^2\right )}=\frac{A}{1-x} + \frac{B}{1+8x^2}

and solve for A and B... this is the standard approach, is my method UNUSUAL?


This is wrong
it should be :
\frac{1+5x+30x^2}{\left (1-x\right )\left (1+8x^2\right )}=\frac{A}{1-x} + \frac{Bx +C}{1+8x^2}

Now determin A,B and C by adding up these fractions and then compare the numerator with the given fraction...

marlon
 
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Marlon: thanks for your help, but the question specified that I deduce and not solve.

Vincent: substituting x=2u works. Thanks.
 
whkoh said:
Marlon: thanks for your help, but the question specified that I deduce and not solve.

Vincent: substituting x=2u works. Thanks.

i know, but that answer is already given. I just wanted to point out that the given partial fractions were wrong,...that's all

marlon
 
me wrong?
did I say B is constant?
 
Compute A and B with your formula...

Daniel.
 
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