Particle acceleration for Hyper drives?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of using particle accelerators as a means of propulsion for hyperdrives. Participants explore related ideas, including thruster designs and the physics of particle interactions, while referencing various scientific principles and technologies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions a vague understanding of using particle accelerators for hyperdrives and seeks more information.
  • Another participant criticizes the initial post for lacking a solid reference and provides a link to a blog for further reading.
  • A different participant connects the topic to their previous thread about Helmholtz coils and discusses the idea of a "mass flow ionizer" thruster based on Earth's atmosphere, which they were told would not work.
  • This participant references various concepts such as Hall Effect thrusters, impulse transfer, and particle beam weapons, indicating a complex web of ideas related to propulsion and particle physics.
  • One participant notes that the referenced article is from 2009 and suggests that there has been no significant progress on the topic since then.
  • Another participant advises focusing on one topic at a time, expressing frustration with the breadth of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the viability of using particle accelerators for hyperdrives. There are multiple competing views regarding the feasibility and progress of related technologies.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on outdated references, and there is uncertainty regarding the current state of research on the proposed concepts. The discussion includes various scientific principles that may not be fully resolved or agreed upon.

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I vaguely read about this idea about using particle accelerators as hyperdrives

Does anyone know any more information about this subject?
 
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This is not an acceptable way to start a discussion. "vaguely read" is not a good reference source.

https://www.physicsforums.com/blog.php?b=2703

Zz.
 
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Alright, this is partially related to my other thread involving my misunderstanding of the helmholtz coil and its effects

I had all of these tabs open on wikipedia at the time while researching about the possibility of creating a "mass flow ionizer" type thruster based on Earth's atmosphere which so far I was told would not work.

Anyway, through reading I was linked to "Particle Beam Weapon" and I had to look deeper to find where it was that I read the statements comparing impulses of a larger and a smaller ball (impulse transfer) as an analogy of what happens when the "high kinetic particles" are applying a force on the accelerating device therefore supposedly driving the craft... (very vague as I said)

Hall Effect
Hall Effect thruster
Helmholtz Coil
Specific Impulse
Magnetic Field
Electronegativity
Pound Force
Xenon Gas
My Charge to Mass ratio lab
Lorentz Force
Thrust
Particle beam weapon

Ha! I found it. I didn't even realize it was written on the same website (published) that is what is advertised on these forums

http://phys.org/news174293159.html
 
That was from 2009. I haven't heard anything being done on such things. In fact, the only citation to that arXiv manuscript was another preprint by the author himself.

So to answer your original question, this has gone nowhere so far.

Zz.

P.S. Stick to one topic at a time. I don't need to know what you were doing when you came up with this question.
 
Alright well thanks
 

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