Particle bouncing between walls

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The discussion centers on the behavior of a particle colliding with moving walls, specifically regarding the calculation of its velocity after elastic collisions. The proposed formula, which adds the velocities of the walls to the particle's initial velocity based on the number of collisions, does not yield correct results. Participants explore the implications of elastic collisions, questioning how the particle's velocity changes when colliding with a moving wall and what occurs in the wall's rest frame. The conversation highlights the need to consider relative motion and the effects of frame transformations on the particle's velocity. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for accurately modeling the particle's behavior in this scenario.
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Homework Statement
A particle is situated between two walls that are closing in on each other. The particle is moving at 1.61 km/s in the -x direction, the left wall is moving at 1.01 km/s in the +x direction, and the right wall is moving at 2.51 km/s in the -x direction. What is the velocity of the particle after bouncing off of the left wall 10 times and the right wall 9 times?
Relevant Equations
Delta v = v final - v initial

Conservation of momentum

???
I thought it would be a good idea to pretend that the walls are stationary and that each time the particle hits a wall, it gets a velocity addition of the velocity of the wall it’s hitting. Using this I ended up at the formula

V = initial velocity of particle + n(velocity of left wall) + m(velocity of right wall)

where n and m are the number of collisions with the left and right walls, respectively.

Needless to say, this does not give me the right answer. Thoughts?
 
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Assuming that the collisions with the walls are elastic, what happens with the velocity of the ball after collision with a moving wall?
 
Orodruin said:
Assuming that the collisions with the walls are elastic, what happens with the velocity of the ball after collision with a moving wall?
Would you add twice the magnitude of the initial velocity to the initial velocity?
 
Josh0768 said:
Would you add twice the magnitude of the initial velocity to the initial velocity?
What happens in the rest frame of the wall? What does that mean for a different frame?
 
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