PDE problem, Solve using Method of Characteristics

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The discussion revolves around a partial differential equation (PDE) problem, specifically focusing on solving an initial value problem (IVP) related to a hyperbolic function solution. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the methodology for solving the IVP given certain boundary conditions.

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  • Participants discuss the characteristics of the PDE and how to apply boundary conditions. There are attempts to differentiate the function and integrate with respect to variables, as well as questions about the correct interpretation of derivatives related to the functions involved.

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Some participants have provided guidance on differentiating the function and integrating to find relationships between the functions involved. However, there remains uncertainty about the specific steps and methodology, particularly regarding the interpretation of derivatives and the integration process.

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The original poster notes that the problem was not covered in class, indicating a potential gap in understanding the application of the method of characteristics to the IVP. There is also mention of a reference to an external example that caused confusion.

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Hi

This problem occurred on my final and I could not figure it out.

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The problem was a partial differential equation (I forgot the exact equation) but the solution was a hyperbolic function in the form of u(x,y)= f(x+y) + g (x+y), it was part b that gave me the problem.

Part b asked to solve the initial value problem give u(0,y)=y and u_x_(0,y)=y^2 (I'm not 100% sure what they were, but they were functions of y). I just want to know how I would solve an initial value problem for these equations as we never covered it in class.

Thanks.
 
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So can anyone help me out?

Thanks
 
So I ordered my exam, it turns out the actual question was:

Solve u_xx+u_xy-6u_yy = 0. The solution which I solved correctly was a hyperbolic function u (x,y)= f(2x+y)+g(3x-y).

The IVP is u(0,y) = y^2 and u_x_(0,y)=3y.

Thanks.
 
So found the characteristics and now you apply the boundary conditions. What is your problem exactly?

Mat
 
hunt_mat said:
So found the characteristics and now you apply the boundary conditions. What is your problem exactly?

Mat

Hi

I just don't know how to solve the IVP u(0,y) = y^2 and u_x_(0,y)=3y when u (x,y)= f(2x+y)+g(3x-y).

I found a solved example online (http://www.mathsman.co.uk/DEnotes[2].pdf, the IVP is solved beginning page 48) but I'm very confused on their methodology, so if someone can explain this or do it some different way I would really appreciate it.

Thanks
 
Just differentiate!
<br /> \frac{\partial u}{\partial x}(0,y)=2f&#039;(y)+3g&#039;(-y)=3y<br />
Integrating w.r.t. y shows that:
<br /> 2f(y)-3g(-y)=\frac{3y^{2}}{2}<br />
Likewise setting x=0 in the equations shows that:
<br /> u(0,y)=f(y)+g(-y)=y^{2}<br />
To find f and g just add and subtract.
 
hunt_mat said:
Just differentiate!
<br /> \frac{\partial u}{\partial x}(0,y)=2f&#039;(y)+3g&#039;(-y)=3y<br />
Integrating w.r.t. y shows that:
<br /> 2f(y)-3g(-y)=\frac{3y^{2}}{2}<br />
Likewise setting x=0 in the equations shows that:
<br /> u(0,y)=f(y)+g(-y)=y^{2}<br />
To find f and g just add and subtract.

Hi

Just one question, when we take derivative of f and g, what is it with respect to? I substituted w = 2x+y and v = 3x-y, so u_x = df/dw*dw/dx + dg/dv*dv/dx and when I integrated w.r.t. y I let dw=dy and dv = -dy which gave me the same equation you had, is this correct?
 
Sounds good.
 

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