Peak of Analytical Fourier Transform

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The discussion centers around the analytical Fourier transform of the function ##\sin\Omega t## and the challenges associated with determining the peak frequency of its Fourier transform, particularly in relation to the properties of the Dirac delta function. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the Fourier transform of ##\sin\Omega t## results in a Dirac delta function, which complicates the process of finding the peak frequency through differentiation.
  • Another participant suggests that the Dirac delta function is zero everywhere except at zero, implying that finding the peak should not be overly difficult.
  • A subsequent reply questions whether this situation is a special case that affects the general method of finding peak frequencies through differentiation.
  • It is clarified that the Dirac delta function is a distribution and not a real function, which limits the applicability of standard differentiation methods.
  • Another participant points out that the frequency of the sine wave directly relates to the location of the delta function and suggests a numerical approach using software like Matlab to find maxima and minima.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of differentiation in this context, with some suggesting it may still be valid while others emphasize the special nature of the Dirac delta function. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to find the peak frequency analytically.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in applying standard mathematical techniques to distributions like the Dirac delta function, which may not yield straightforward results in this context.

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Finding the peak frequency in an analytical fourier transform
In a numerical Fourier transform, we find the frequency that maximizes the value of the Fourier transform.

However, let us consider an analytical Fourier transform, of ##\sin\Omega t##. It's Fourier transform is given by
$$-i\pi\delta(\Omega-\omega)+i\pi\delta(\omega+\Omega)$$
Normally, to find the value of ##\omega## that maximizes this function, we would differentiate with respect to ##\omega## and set to 0. However, in this case, the derivative of a dirac delta function cannot be evaluated. Hence, we are unable to find the peak frequency to be at ##\Omega## unlike what we would in a numerical, discrete-time Fourier transform.

Is there any way around this, to find the peak frequency of the Fourier transform of a function?
 
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Te Dirac delta is 0 everywhere except for ##\delta(0) \neq 0##. It shouldn't be too har to find where the FT has a peak :smile:
 
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DrClaude said:
Te Dirac delta is 0 everywhere except for ##\delta(0) \neq 0##. It shouldn't be too har to find where the FT has a peak :smile:
oh so this is a special case, and does not disqualify differentiating and setting to 0 as a general method of finding the peak frequency?
 
Luke Tan said:
oh so this is a special case, and does not disqualify differentiating and setting to 0 as a general method of finding the peak frequency?
Yes, it's a special case because the Dirac delta is not a real function, but a distribution, so you can't apply the same methods as you would normally use.
 
What frequency is the sine wave oscillating at? That is where your delta function will be and at ##2 \pi - \Omega##

You could always use Matlab or etc. to find maxes and mins of Fourier's.
 

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