Perfectly inelastic collision in a spring situation?

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The discussion revolves around a perfectly inelastic collision involving a bullet embedding itself in a block attached to a spring. The user initially applies the conservation of momentum to find the block's velocity after impact but struggles with the calculations. They correctly identify that the spring force is conservative and that energy conservation should be used to determine the bullet's initial speed. However, they realize their mistake in applying the momentum equation and acknowledge the need to use the kinetic energy formula for the combined mass after the collision. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly applying both momentum and energy conservation principles in collision problems.
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A rifle bullet with mass 8.00 g strikes and embeds itself in a block with mass 0.992 kg that rests on a frictionless, horizontal surface and is attached to a coil spring. The impact compresses the spring 15.0 cm. Calibration of the spring shows that a force of 0.750 N is required to compress the spring 0.250 cm.

1. Find the magnitude of the block's velocity just after impact.

2. What was the initial speed of the bullet?

My entire strategy for solving this problem is that it is a perfectly inelastic collision. I reason this because the bullet embeds itself in the block, even though this is in a spring situation.

So, (m_a)(v_a,1) + (m_b)(v_b,1) = (m_a + m_b)(v_2).

Plugging in the givens results in (.008)(v_a,1) = v_2.

Then, I considered the energies of the system as a whole. Spring force is conservative.

I reason that at the point at which the spring is at maximum compression of .15 m, the final velocity of the block is zero. So,

(1/2)(m_a)(v_a,1)^2 = (1/2)(300)(.15)^2

I get 300 as the spring constant because F=kx.

Solving for v_a,1, I got 29.0 m/s. I then multiplied 29.0 by .008 to get the velocity of the system, v_2.

But, my answer was not correct.

Was I wrong to use the perfectly inelastic collision equation?
 

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I recognized my initial error. I should have done (1/2)(m_a + m_b)(v_2)^2.
 
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