PF is taken over by space robots?

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The forum has undergone a significant redesign, featuring a metallic, 3D aesthetic with neon green buttons, which has sparked mixed reactions among users. While some appreciate the fresh look and its improved color coordination, others find it irritating and prefer the classic design. Users can switch back to the old skin if they wish, but many are encouraged to give the new design a chance before making a final judgment. The discussion highlights a divide between those who embrace change and those who resist it, with some arguing that the new design could attract more visitors. Overall, the conversation reflects a broader debate about the balance between aesthetics and functionality in online communities.
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It's suddenly all metallic and 3D and stuff, with neon green buttons. Presumably we've been assimillated by extraterrestial robots?
 
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We've always had neon green buttons, they just used to clash with the blue background. :biggrin: (You have no idea how thrilled I am that the site is finally color-coordinated again.) As you can see, we definitely tossed Evo's lace curtain suggestion.

Just wait until you've used it for a few days and then look back at the old skin (you can switch back to it in usercp if you wish)...you'll be shocked at how boring the old skin looks soon enough.
 
is this a permanent thing?
 
I thought my bookmarks were messed up at first, I don't like this new look.
 
What is this, the year 3000? :(
 
OK, I'll give this a chance, but it IS irritating for the eyes. Maybe another "calm" skin in the future (yeah, I know, it's hard work)?

- Kamataat
 
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Give it a chance. It grows on you.
 
theCandyman said:
I thought my bookmarks were messed up at first, I don't like this new look.

You can switch back to "PF Classic" using the quick style chooser at the bottom left of every page.
 
Hey my style changed back to the original when i went to New Posts nad went to page #3... and it seems to be stuck here :P
 
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Moonbear said:
As you can see, we definitely tossed Evo's lace curtain suggestion.
Only because your rats chewed them up. :cry:
 
  • #11
Evo said:
Only because your rats chewed them up. :cry:
Well, they needed some nesting material, and it was such nice, soft lace. :approve:
 
  • #12
Not only has PF been taken over by mechanoid interstellar space faring monkeys of doom, but BREWNOG IS YELLOW!

WOO!

YAY!
 
  • #13
brewnog said:
Not only has PF been taken over by mechanoid interstellar space faring monkeys of doom, but BREWNOG IS YELLOW!
WOO!
YAY!
Wow! How will we ever find you on those big yellow machines when you just blend in like that?
 
  • #14
Moonbear said:
Wow! How will we ever find you on those big yellow machines when you just blend in like that?



I'll be the one digging the biggest holes, crushing cars, and generally causing the most amount of havoc, whilst cackling like a very happy lunatic.
 
  • #15
I've been here 5 minutes... already switched back to classic.
 
  • #16
yeah, i gave it a try. can't stand it. pf classic is well... classic.
 
  • #17
Like, this new skin rocks mad..
I especially like the small graphics around a thread..

Futuristic and awesome.
 
  • #18
geez, you people. crawl out of your caves and join the civilized world. you know Greg is hanging around waiting to hear that all his hard work is appreciated, but all you do is ***** and moan. Tell Greg he did a good job. Tell him you love the new skin. and tell him change is good. Every time you change to the new skin an angel gets its wings.
 
  • #19
hmm, you're right. i appreciate it very much that greg left the original scheme for us to continue to use. wtg greg!
 
  • #20
New PF design

UGHHHHHHHH what did they do to this place? It used to be so much nicer before. UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :mad: Its so cheasy looking. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
 
  • #21
I agree. This is some tripped out hippy design :frown:
 
  • #22
The dinosaur's refused to change to something new. "We like things just the way they are. Let those crazy monkeys dabble in 'evolution' I'm not changing." said Brutus Brontosaurus
"Me neither. I'm no mammal. Did you hear? they went with live births. HAHA HA! What's next opposable thumbs?" rumbled Rex
"Good one, Rex!" squeeked Pat Apatosaurus, "Look at me. I'm a monkey. Duh duh, I can make a tool. duh look I'm snapping my fingers."
"Change sucks, stagnation rules!" yelled Andy Ankylosaurus, "Brrrr, you guys feel that?"
"Yeah," said Rex, "getting downright chilly."
"I can help ya," squeeked Pat, "duh Look at me, I can handle fire. I'm a monkey. duh I can change my immediate surroundings. haha. That what you want Rex? want some climate control? haha Evolve befo..." Pat's squeeks were silenced as Rex devoured his head.
"That's enough talk about change. Now let's get busy not doing any. It is chilly though isn't it. Hey! Look a shooting star! Everyone make a wish. I wish it was a little bit warmer. Wow! that's one big shooting star isn't it. "
 
  • #23
Well said both.

Bring back the old skin

PLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEE
 
  • #25
zanazzi78 said:
Well said both.
Bring back the old skin
PLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEE

You have the ability to change to the old skin by using the quick style chooser at the bottom left of every page.
 
  • #26
AAAh that's better no more dull grey,

thanx Greg for the option.
 
  • #27
Greg Bernhardt said:
You have the ability to change to the old skin by using the quick style chooser at the bottom left of every page.


Ohh, Hallelujah! I can see again! Thank you, thank you thank you! :-p
 
  • #28
see! they don't even give this one a chance. Haven't checked out all the cool things like that quick style changer. You getting pissed off yet Greg? I guess we hear this everytime you change the look though huh?" And every change has been an improvement (except for that long flash intro screen) I say that after everyone is used to this skin you should pretend it is time for a new look then switch back to the old skin. I'll bet the same people complaining today will complain then.
 
  • #29
and yet somehow trib's ancestors survived...
 
  • #30
what a relief! that was horrible! i literally feel like a physical pain has been eased with the removal of that atrocious new design.

i sure am glad i read this thread. i was literally going to stop coming around because it wasn't worth suffering for.
 
  • #31
Wow! Talking dinosaurs! They must have been brought back by the same time travellers from the future that designed the new PF.
 
  • #32
I kinda like this theme O.O
 
  • #33
I can't believe you guys aren't even giving it a chance! Just a few days. Greg is making the site more distinctive so it doesn't look like every other vBulletin site out there. Seriously, give it a few days. It's a big change, so it is shocking at first. Greg didn't give us mentors a choice...he turned it on in the mentor's forum and left it on...and it worked...after a few days, and a few tweaks, I went from a lengthy list of criticisms to loving it. The first day I saw it, I thought I'd definitely be switching right back to the old blue skin once the change was made, but now I'm not going to do it, I like the new look.
 
  • #34
Jeez, was there this kind of reception last time the skin was changed? Just give it a week to get accustomed to it, then decide which is better.
 
  • #35
Nah. KISS.

Keep it simple, stupid.

If people need a week to get used to something, then new visitors aren't going to stay past their first visit. I believe this site is supposed to encourage people to stick around and learn something... yes?

I'd like to see some sort of numbers, showing how many new visitors decide to stay, with the new skin as the default - compared to how many new visitors decide to stay, with the old skin as the default.
 
  • #36
pattylou said:
Nah. KISS.
Keep it simple, stupid.
If people need a week to get used to something, then new visitors aren't going to stay past their first visit. I believe this site is supposed to encourage people to stick around and learn something... yes?
I'd like to see some sort of numbers, showing how many new visitors decide to stay, with the new skin as the default - compared to how many new visitors decide to stay, with the old skin as the default.
But new visitors don't have to "get used" to the change, they've never seen the previous version to know the difference. I actually think this skin has features that make navigation of the forum quite a bit easier, from more prominent buttons with links to important information, to the nice color-coding on the main forum index that shows what forums you have and haven't read. It's way better than those crazy erlenmyer flasks that I never liked.
 
  • #37
I agree with pattylou, another vote for the old simple skin. New one has much too much eye candy, sorry designer but 0 stars for you.
 
  • #38
Arman_AAT_Khos said:
I agree with pattylou, another vote for the old simple skin. New one has much too much eye candy, sorry designer but 0 stars for you.
how many more ban credits do I have? cause when some punk with a total of 5 posts to his name comes in and starts talking crap I feel it is my duty to tell him to shut up. Maybe go check out something in the biology forum where they are used dealing with pieces of **** like him.
 
  • #39
chill tribdog, what's with the name calling. I am just voicing my opinion. But I prefer to stay in the Homework forum and help once in awhile, you know things 'punks' do.
 
  • #40
Moonbear said:
But new visitors don't have to "get used" to the change, they've never seen the previous version to know the difference. I actually think this skin has features that make navigation of the forum quite a bit easier, from more prominent buttons with links to important information, to the nice color-coding on the main forum index that shows what forums you have and haven't read. It's way better than those crazy erlenmyer flasks that I never liked.
Of course any new visitor is "naive" to either skin.

Regardless, I think a simple skin is ... by definition... far less "busy", and I'd think that would be better for keeping new visitors.

I also think by changing to the space age look, a different "clientele" is selected, one who is more interested in flash than substance.
 
  • #41
Does this look good to you guys?

http://boson.particle.cc/pftest.jpg
http://boson.particle.cc/pftest2.jpg

Just a photoshop mockup to maybe make it less gray.
 
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tribdog said:
how many more ban credits do I have? cause when some punk with a total of 5 posts to his name comes in and starts talking crap I feel it is my duty to tell him to shut up. Maybe go check out something in the biology forum where they are used dealing with pieces of **** like him.
Ouch... Damn Trib. I agree that people are being rather harsh but you should be careful not to get your butt booted so shortly after returning.
 
  • #43
Moonbear said:
It's way better than those crazy erlenmyer flasks that I never liked.

Oh dear. ...[/color]
 
  • #44
octelcogopod said:
Does this look good to you guys?

http://boson.particle.cc/pftest.jpg
http://boson.particle.cc/pftest2.jpg

Just a photoshop mockup to maybe make it less gray.
I'd have to agree that the contrast would be a bit more apealing to me.
 
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  • #45
i like that as well.
 
  • #46
pattylou said:
Of course any new visitor is "naive" to either skin.
Regardless, I think a simple skin is ... by definition... far less "busy", and I'd think that would be better for keeping new visitors.
I also think by changing to the space age look, a different "clientele" is selected, one who is more interested in flash than substance.
I don't know; a lot of our "clientele" are young students. Also, when the site looks like every other vBulletin site on the internet, it isn't very memorable for someone who comes across it via Google. If it catches their eye, maybe they'll stay and find out about the substance. For those who are interested primarily in substance, we still have that, and I'd argue they're the ones more interested in flash than substance if they'd leave just because of the look of the site. But we'll see. If traffic slows with the new skin, I'm sure that would be enough reason for Greg to reconsider. Science is exciting and about moving forward toward the future, so why shouldn't the forum take that direction too?
 
  • #47
Arman_AAT_Khos said:
chill tribdog, what's with the name calling. I am just voicing my opinion. But I prefer to stay in the Homework forum and help once in awhile, you know things 'punks' do.
You've only been here a month, you should give the new look a try. :smile:

The new skin surprised me because the version Greg showed us a couple of months ago was very different. I have really taken to this new look over the past week, it's a work in progress, Greg is continually tweaking it.

I have to say I am very disappointed with the attitudes of some people here that don't even give it time before they decide they don't like it. Some people have a harder time with change than others, but give it a week, then if you have issues, give some constructive feedback. Anyone that looks at it for 5 minutes and says no loses their credibility with me.
 
  • #48
octelcogopod said:
Does this look good to you guys?

http://boson.particle.cc/pftest.jpg
http://boson.particle.cc/pftest2.jpg

Just a photoshop mockup to maybe make it less gray.
Hey, cool...that is nice too! I like gray too though. I use a silver-themed browser skin too with black and white buttons (I can't stand the primary-colored themes that Windows XP uses that look like someone colored it in with a crayon)...but that dark blue is nice. Maybe Greg would be able to make a change like that if that's all it takes to make it more palatable to everyone.
 
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  • #49
I don't know; a lot of our "clientele" are young students. Also, when the site looks like every other vBulletin site on the internet, it isn't very memorable for someone who comes across it via Google. If it catches their eye, maybe they'll stay and find out about the substance. For those who are interested primarily in substance, we still have that, and I'd argue they're the ones more interested in flash than substance if they'd leave just because of the look of the site. But we'll see. If traffic slows with the new skin, I'm sure that would be enough reason for Greg to reconsider. Science is exciting and about moving forward toward the future, so why shouldn't the forum take that direction too?
I really don't have a strong opinnion about this. I *would* be interested in seeing numbers of new visitors that stay with either skin, testing each skin in the default mode. I suggest that if that sort of analysis is available, that you (general) use it.

-Patty

(p.s. I also prefer this: :) to this: :smile: ... so I admit to being old fashioned. )
 
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octelcogopod said:
Does this look good to you guys?

http://boson.particle.cc/pftest.jpg
http://boson.particle.cc/pftest2.jpg

Just a photoshop mockup to maybe make it less gray.
I like the darker backgound, a small change but very nice!
 
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