Phase change Melting ice with hot tea.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final temperature of a mixture of hot tea and crushed ice using heat transfer principles. The initial calculations for heat loss from the tea and heat gain from melting ice were incorrect due to a miscalculation of mass. After correcting the mass of the tea, the user re-evaluated the equations for heat transfer, leading to confusion about the correct setup for the final temperature variable. Ultimately, the user clarified their approach and successfully arrived at the correct answer. The problem highlights the importance of accurate mass values and proper setup in thermodynamic calculations.
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Homework Statement



175 cm3 of hot tea at 87°C are poured into a very thin paper cup with 80 g of crushed ice at 0°C. Calculate the final temperature of the "ice tea". (Hint: think about two processes: melting the ice into liquid and, maybe, warming the liquid.)

Homework Equations



Q=mc(deltaT)
Q=mL

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I calculated the heat loss by the tea:
Q1=(.0175)(4186)(87)=63731.9J

Then the heat needed to melt the ice:
Q2=(0.08)(33.5e4)=26800J

Heat gain by the melted ice-water
Q3=(.08)(4186)(87)=29134.6J

Then Q(final)= Q1-Q2-Q3
=7797.34J

Set it equal to the entire system
7797.34J=(0.255)(4186)(T)

My answer is 7.3 deg Celsius, which is wrong. I can't seem to find what I did wrong!
Please help! Thanks.
 
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Hi lwaiyipl, welcome to PF.
Since Q1> Q2, temperature of the tea does not reach zero degree. So rewrite the first and third equation taking θ as the final temperature of the mixture.
 
Hey rl.bhat, thanks for the reply. But I still don't quite get it. If I make the final temperature as a variable, θ, then I will get θ=102.437 deg Celsius, which is hotter than the original 87 deg.
ARRGH, I am pulling my hairs out for this problem!
 
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In Q1 temperature will be (87- θ)
In Q3 temperature will be θ and mass of the mixture will be ...?
 
I see that the work I showed at the first post is incorrect, it's 0.175 instead of 0.0175.
So
Q1=(0.175)(4186)(87-θ)

Q2=(0.08)(33.5e4)

Q3=(0.175+0.08)(4186)(θ-0)

Am I setting it up correctly?
I have a question about Q3, why do we add the tea with the melted ice-water? Aren't we calculating for the amount of heat needed to raise the melted ice-water from 0 deg to θ?
 
Yes. You are right.
 
Thanks rl.bhat. Sorry about late reply. I got the answer now!
 
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