Physics Problem on Angular Momentum

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The discussion centers on calculating the angular speed of a wooden gate after being struck by a raven. The initial momentum of the raven was calculated using the formula L = mvl, resulting in 4.125 kg m/s². The moment of inertia for the gate was initially miscalculated; the correct formula involves using the full length of the side and applying the parallel axis theorem. The user struggled with visualizing the scenario and arrived at an incorrect angular speed of 6.8 rad/s, while the correct answer is 1.71 rad/s. Clarifications on the moment of inertia and proper calculations were provided to assist in resolving the problem.
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Homework Statement



A uniform 4.5 kg square solid wooden gate 1.5 m on each side hangs vertically from a frictionless pivot at the center of its upper edge. A 1.1 kg raven flying horizontally at 5.0 m/s flies into this gate at its center and bounces back at 2.0 m/s in the opposite direction. What is the angular speed of the gate just after it is struck by the unfortunate event.

Homework Equations



L=mvl and L=Iw


The Attempt at a Solution



First I calculated the momentum for the bird using L=mvl
L = (1.1 kg)(5.0 m/s)(1.5m/2) = 4.125 kg m/s^2

Then the total momentum after it strikes the square
L(total) = raven + the square

I wasn't sure about the moment of interia equation for the square so I used the one a thin rectangular plate axis along edge = Mr^2/3

= (1.1kg)(-2.0 m/s)(1.5m/s) + (4.5 kg)(.75)^2/3(wf) = -1.65 kg m/s^2 + 0.84375(wf)

I equated this to the intial momentum of the bird
4.125 kg m/s^2 = = -1.65 kg m/s^2 + 0.84375(wf)

wf = 6.8 rad/s which is way off

Answer = 1.71 rad/s

I think I'm having trouble as I can't visual the scenario properly...and help would be great!
 
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utm01 said:
First I calculated the momentum for the bird using L=mvl
L = (1.1 kg)(5.0 m/s)(1.5m/2) = 4.125 kg m/s^2

Then the total momentum after it strikes the square
L(total) = raven + the square

I wasn't sure about the moment of interia equation for the square so I used the one a thin rectangular plate axis along edge = Mr^2/3

= (1.1kg)(-2.0 m/s)(1.5m/s) + (4.5 kg)(.75)^2/3(wf) = -1.65 kg m/s^2 + 0.84375(wf)

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The moment of inertia of a rectangular plate with dimensions a x b about its center, the axis being perpendicular to the sides of length b is

\frac{1}{12} M \; b^2

Note that the full length of the side, 'b' is used. Apply the parallel axis theorem to move the axis of rotation to the edge (along and 'a' side).
 
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