Pinhole camera question with only two known variables?

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The discussion centers on a true or false question regarding a pinhole camera's image size and object distance. The key variables are the image height (hi) of 40.0 cm and the object distance (do) of 40.0 m, with the object height (ho) being uncertain. Participants clarify that using a specific value for ho, such as 10 m, is inappropriate without deriving it from the given data. The conclusion is that the statement cannot be definitively answered as true or false without additional information about ho. The overall consensus emphasizes the need for careful consideration of known variables in calculations.
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Homework Statement



True or False: If a pinhole camera casts on the screen an image of 40.0cm in size of an object situated at a distance of 40.0m from the camera, then the size of the object is 10.0m.

Homework Equations



M = hi/ho = di/do

The Attempt at a Solution



hi = 40.0cm
do = 40.0m
ho = 10.0m (?)

M = hi/ho = 0.04m
di = dohi/ho = 0.16m
M = di/do = 0.004m

I'm guessing it is FALSE because the two values for M are different but I really have no idea how to go about a question like this. Any help would be greatly appreciated! :D
 
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ldesai149 said:

Homework Statement



True or False: If a pinhole camera casts on the screen an image of 40.0cm in size of an object situated at a distance of 40.0m from the camera, then the size of the object is 10.0m.

Homework Equations



M = hi/ho = di/do

The Attempt at a Solution



hi = 40.0cm
do = 40.0m
ho = 10.0m (?)

M = hi/ho = 0.04m
di = dohi/ho = 0.16m
There's a mistake above involving what's in red. But read below before reaching a final conclusion in your answer. You used ho = 10 m as part of your calculations, but you shouldn't use a specific number for ho, because you don't know for sure what the object height actually is yet.
M = di/do = 0.004m

I'm guessing it is FALSE because the two values for M are different but I really have no idea how to go about a question like this. Any help would be greatly appreciated! :D
This is a true or false question. So at the time the statement is given, you don't really know what the object height ho is. Maybe it's 10 m if the statement is true. But maybe it's 12 m or 100 m, or some other height, if the statement is false. It's best not to use a specific value for ho unless you can derive that value first.

Since you don't know what ho is, is there a way to calculate it knowing only that hi = 0.40 m, and do = 40 m? If, based only on that information, you can calculate ho to be 10 m (without using "10 m" as part of your calculations), then the statement is true. If you calculate some other number or if there is simply not enough information to derive the 10 m figure, then the statement is generally false. :wink:
 
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ldesai149 said:
hi/ho = di/do
Put another way, how many variables are in that equation? How many are given in the problem statement? Can this equation be solved with that information? (Hint: do not consider ho=10.0m as given; as collinsmark said, we do not know this.)
 
Thank you! :D It was a question on an exam and I couldn't stop thinking about it..
 
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