Plane wave in cartesian coordinates

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The discussion focuses on deriving the expression for a plane wave in Cartesian coordinates with a specified amplitude and wavelength. The wave vector, k, must be defined with both magnitude and direction, where the direction is determined by the angle θ. The participants clarify that the wave vector should be expressed as k = (2π/λ)(cosθ, sinθ, 0) to reflect the propagation direction. A common misunderstanding arises regarding the dot product and the representation of unit vectors, leading to confusion about the spatial dependence of the wave. Ultimately, the correct formulation integrates both the magnitude and directional components of the wave vector.
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Homework Statement


Provide an expression in Cartesian coordinates for a plane wave of amplitude 1 [V/m] and wavelength 700 nm propagating in u = cosθx + sinθy direction, where x and y are unit vectors along the x and y-axis and θ is the measured angle from the x axis.

Homework Equations



ψ{x,y,z,t) = Aei(kx+ky+kz ± ωt)
k = 2π/λ

The Attempt at a Solution


im not finding many good examples on this but using the plug and chug method i came up with

ψ = Aei(.008(cosθ +sinθ) -ωt)
 
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Notice how there is no space variation in your wave?

The general expression you want is: $$\psi(\vec r) = Ae^{i(\vec k\cdot\vec r \pm \omega t)}$$ ... for Cartesian coordinates, ##\vec r = (x,y,z)## and ##\vec k = (k_x,k_y,k_z)##.
 
i don't see the difference in what i posted and what you posted. you posted the dot product of the propagation vector and the unit vector. isn't that i what i did?
 
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i don't see the difference in what i posted and what you posted. you posted the dot product of the propagation vector and the unit vector. isn't that i what i did?
Maybe I missed it? You wrote:
##\psi = Ae^{i(.008(\cos\theta +\sin\theta) -\omega t)}##
Where is the x-y-z dependence? If you had done the dot product, wouldn't there be one?

Please write out what you got for the wave-vector ##\vec k##
 
thats where my mistake is. I am not sure what my k vector should be. I am looking through the text right now trying to figure it out.
 
Your wave vector should have magnitude ##2\pi/\lambda## and should point in the direction of propagation.
 
i did that. that's the .008 in my solution. 2pi/700
 
0.008 is the magnitude (in nm-1) - what about the direction?
 
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well if there is no z component then its headed in the x,y direction. isn't that what the initial u tells me?
 
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should there be an x and a y in front of the cos and sin, respectively.
 
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That's right - the direction is the same as the direction of ##\vec u## ... since ##|\vec u|=1## you can write: ##\vec k = (2\pi / \lambda )\vec u## ...
Since ##\vec u = (\cos\theta, \sin\theta, 0)## you can write: ##\vec k = \frac{2\pi}{\lambda}(\cos\theta, \sin\theta, 0)##

##\vec k\cdot\vec r = \frac{2\pi}{\lambda}(\cos\theta, \sin\theta, 0)\cdot (x,y,z) = \cdots## ... carry out the dot product.
 
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ahh ok. what i did was (cosθx, sinθy) ⋅ (x,y)

so my x and y turned to 1's.

thank you!
 
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Ah - then there was a notation mixup:
If we define x = (1,0,0) etc, then r = xx + yy + zz while u = cosθ x + sinθ y and the dot product proceeds correctly.
You may be used to using i-j-k for unit vectors but you can see why you don't want to do that here.

[If you were thinking that x = (x,0,0) then that's a different kind of mixup and r = x + y + z ]
 
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