Play with a handyboard from MIT?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around using a handyboard from MIT to control a high current, high speed ducted fan motor. Participants explore various methods and components for interfacing with the handyboard, focusing on the limitations of the stock board and potential solutions for motor control.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the handyboard can only handle up to approximately 600mA, raising concerns about using it with high current motors.
  • Another suggests using a power amplifier or relay to drive the motor instead of connecting it directly to the handyboard.
  • There is a discussion about the suitability of relays for pulse-width modulation (PWM) control, with some proposing solid state relays as a better option.
  • A participant mentions the use of a TI L293D motor controller, which is limited to 600mA, and discusses the possibility of using a solid state relay to switch a separately powered motor.
  • Another participant advises against using solid state relays for fast switching, suggesting that MOSFETs are more appropriate for this application and providing specifications for selecting suitable MOSFETs.
  • Concerns are raised about the need for additional circuitry to drive MOSFETs effectively, particularly regarding current sourcing and sinking capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best method to control high current motors with the handyboard. While some advocate for using MOSFETs, others suggest relays, leading to an unresolved discussion on the most effective approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific components and their limitations, such as the current handling capacity of the L293D motor controller and the potential delays in solid state relays, indicating a need for careful consideration of component specifications.

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Anyone ever play with a handyboard from MIT? From what I gather, you can't use a high current motor with the stock handyboard unless you want to fry board, as it will only handle up to~600mA or so. How could one use a handyboard to control a high current, high speed ducted fan motor.

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I'm not familiar with the product, but can't you just use it to drive a power amp or relay?
 


The handyboard uses pulse-width modulation for speed control of the motors, I was wondering if a relay is fast enough to handle it. I guess a solid state relay might be the better option here? What about a ULN2004A High Voltage / High Current Darlington Arrays, how much current can they handle?
 


Just use a mosfet. I am assuming the fan you are driving is for a model aircraft? Try to find a mosfet rated around 50V and 20 amps or more. also, if your pwm driver doesn't have both current source and sink, you need to build a driver for it since mosfets are controlled with capacitance. This can be done easily with a pnp and npn transistor. If you need more current you can run multiple mosfets in parallel.
 


The microcontroller on the handyboard pwm signal goes to a TI L293D motor controller h-bridge, which is essentially the same thing as in the link posted previously as I gather. The problem is that this chip can only handle 600mA. There is a similar chip that can handle up to 1.2A, but that isn't enough either. I guess I could hijack the output signal from the mc to go to a solid state relay to switch on the motor which is separately powered. Solid state relays can be switched directly from the mc, without the need of a transisor correct?
 


AstroRoyale said:
The microcontroller on the handyboard pwm signal goes to a TI L293D motor controller h-bridge, which is essentially the same thing as in the link posted previously as I gather. The problem is that this chip can only handle 600mA. There is a similar chip that can handle up to 1.2A, but that isn't enough either. I guess I could hijack the output signal from the mc to go to a solid state relay to switch on the motor which is separately powered. Solid state relays can be switched directly from the mc, without the need of a transisor correct?

No, that isn't a good idea. Solid state relays were not made to switch that quickly, some even have internal delays that wait a few seconds to turn on or off a load. Best bet is to use mosfets, almost all commercial and hobby speed controls use them. You can drive the mosfet(s) off of the H-Bridge if you want, just be sure to place a resister ~20 ohm, between it and the gate of the mosfet.
 


Great, thanks!
 

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