How Do Figure Skates Enhance Skating Performance?

In summary, figure skates work by having a low surface area blade that melts the ice at the contact points, allowing the skater to slide. Figure skates have ridges at the tip for spinning, while hockey skates have curved blades for improved maneuverability. The edges on the blade and the curve of the blade also play a role in turning and jumping. Pulling in the arms while spinning increases the skater's angular momentum, resulting in a faster spin. The size and distribution of mass also play a role in the skater's rotational inertia.
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Please help - How do figure skates work...?

How exactly do figure skates work? and how do the materials used help and how do figure skates improve a skaters ability to skate?

any links, commments and answers would be appreicated, thank you.
 
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Skates work because the blade has a low surface area, and when your weight is on those blades, and contact is made to the ice, it melts the ice at that area causing you to slide. Figure skates just have ridges at the tip of the skate so you can spin on it.
 
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Math Jeans said:
Skates work because the blade has a low surface area, and when your weight is on those blades, and contact is made to the ice, it melts the ice at that area causing you to slide. Figure skates just have ridges at the tip of the skate so you can spin on it.
The surface of the blade is concave with sharp ridges, for cornering. Without the sharp edges, it's difficult to turn without the skates sliding. Figure skates and hockey skates have curved blades, which allows spinning even at the middle of the blade. Speed skates are almost straight and can't be used for spinning.
 
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Math Jeans said:
Skates work because the blade has a low surface area, and when your weight is on those blades, and contact is made to the ice, it melts the ice at that area causing you to slide. Figure skates just have ridges at the tip of the skate so you can spin on it.

This is an old and wrong myth.
People are not heavy enough to melt ice significantly. The thin water film on top of the ice is a surface effect.

Although Wikipedia is usually a questionable source, in this case the article about skating is quite ok:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_skating
 
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It should be evident from trying to walk on ice that there is very little friction, so there is no need to melt ice for an ice skate to slide.
 
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People are not heavy enough to melt ice significantly.
I updated my post. The sharp edges cut into the ice, increasing cornering "grip". The ridges at the front of figure skates is for "toe" jumps, they dig into the ice allowing a skater to "plant" the toe into the ice for a launch. The toe picks can't be used for spinning. Another type of jump uses an edge to "plant" into the ice (which is why they need to be sharp), and the final type of jumps are basically vaulting.
 
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A new type of hockey skate has just been introduced to the market, and has been approved (at least for trial) by the NHL. There's an electric heating element in the blade that causes significant melting of the ice at the contact points. There have been claims of a 10% or more increase in skating speed, with improved manoeuvrability.
 
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The two edges created by the undercut in the blade (this feature is called the "hollow") is analogous to your edges on snow skis. When you get your skates sharpened, the sharpening accentuates these two edges. You can feel the two edges when you are skating and turning as your weight gets moved from one side to another. They are definitely needed for turning of any kind. A goalie skate has a pretty flat blade with little to no hollow. This allows a goalie to slide side to side in the net.

The curve of the blade you see if you look at the blade form the side is called the rocker. It varies depending on what the skater likes. Defensemen usually like a fair amount of rocker because it allows them to turn quickly to skate backwards. The drawback is that with the reduced surface area in contact with the ice, the pressure increases and it does slow you down a bit when compared to a flatter rocker.
 
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This is somewha related so i didnt want to make a new thread. Could someone explain the mechanical principles and math behind the classic example of a figure skater pulling her arms close to her body and thus increasing her spin velocity?
 
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Dissonance in E said:
This is somewha related so i didnt want to make a new thread. Could someone explain the mechanical principles and math behind the classic example of a figure skater pulling her arms close to her body and thus increasing her spin velocity?

It has to do with conservation of angular momentum. Just as momentum "quantifies" translational motion, so does angular momentum quantify rotational motion. The angular momentum (L) of a particle is given by:

[tex] \mathbf{L} = \mathbf{r} \times \mathbf{p} [/tex]​

where r is a vector from the centre of rotation to the particle, and p is its momentum. For the simple case of motion in a circle (edit: at a constant speed), r is always perpendicular to p, and so the magnitude of the cross product is simply given by

|L| = L = |r||p| = rp = rmv​

where |r| = r is the radial distance to the particle from the centre of rotation. You can see that as r decreases, v must increase for L to be conserved. For extended bodies such as figure skaters, the actual calculation of the angular momentum is more complicated, but the principle still applies, because we can consider the figure skater as an aggregate of a large number of such particles, each orbiting about the centre at a different distance (depending on its position in the figure skater's body).

If you're wondering intuitively why a large rotating body has MORE angular momentum than a small one rotating at the same speed, it has to do with the fact that it's harder (it takes more work) to get the larger body rotating at that speed in the first place. For translational motion, an object's inertia is quantified solely by its mass. But an object's rotational inertia (how much it resists a change in its state of rotational motion) depends not only on its mass, but also on how that mass is distributed in space. (It is quantified by the moment of inertia). This ties in with the idea of torque...that it's easier to make something spin if you push on it at a point farther away from the spin axis (e.g. it's easier to push open a door using the handle than it would be if you pushed on it at a point close to the hinges). In fact, just as force is the rate of change of momentum (dp/dt) so too is torque the rate of change of angular momentum (dL/dt). That's why, for a system like the figure skater, if no external torques are applied, angular momentum must be constant. There are many such analogies between dynamical quantities describing translational motion, and those describing rotational motion...if you spend some time looking at the area of classical mechanics known as rotational dynamics, you will see how everything ties together.
 
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all right,cool. that makes sense. thanks!
 
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cepheid, that was a really awsome explanation!

There are many such analogies between dynamical quantities describing translational motion, and those describing rotational motion...

could you please list a few of your favourite sites that have these analogies?
 

1. How do figure skates work?

Figure skates work through a combination of balance, technique, and physics. The blade of the skate has a curved, sharp edge that allows the skater to push off the ice and glide in a specific direction. The boot of the skate provides support and stability for the skater's foot and ankle, allowing them to perform jumps, spins, and other movements.

2. How does the blade of a figure skate stay sharp?

The blade of a figure skate is made of a special type of steel that is designed to hold a sharp edge. Skaters also use a sharpening tool called a skate sharpener to maintain the sharpness of the blade. This tool removes small amounts of metal from the blade, creating a sharp edge that allows the skater to glide smoothly on the ice.

3. What is the difference between figure skates and hockey skates?

Figure skates and hockey skates have several key differences. Figure skates have a longer, curved blade that allows for more control and precision in movements, while hockey skates have a shorter, straighter blade for speed and agility. Figure skates also have a higher boot that provides more ankle support, while hockey skates have a lower boot for more flexibility.

4. How do figure skaters perform jumps on the ice?

Figure skaters perform jumps by using the momentum from their gliding movements and the sharp edge of their skate blade. They use their arms and legs to push off the ice and propel themselves into the air, and then use their core muscles to control their body position and land gracefully on the ice.

5. What type of maintenance is required for figure skates?

To keep figure skates in good working condition, they should be regularly sharpened with a skate sharpener and the blades should be wiped clean after each use. The boots should also be cleaned and dried to prevent bacteria buildup. It is also important to check the tightness of the screws on the blade regularly and replace any worn or damaged parts as needed.

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