How Do You Calculate the Second Derivative of Parametric Equations?

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of parametric equations and finding the second derivative using the chain rule. The correct formula for the second derivative is determined to be (x'y'' - y'x'')/x'^3.
  • #1
stonecoldgen
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I'm given that x=cos3θ and that y=sin3θ

if (d2y/dx2)=[(dy/dθ)/(dx/dθ)]/[dx/dθ] is right, wouldn´t the second derivative of the parametric be:

1/3c3θ ??


I got this by using dy/dθ=3sin2θ,

and dx/dθ=-3cos2θsinθ




any idea what's wrong? or is it right?
 
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  • #2
if (d2y/dx2)=[(dy/dθ)/(dx/dθ)]/[dx/dθ] is right
I'm pretty sure this isn't correct. you need to wrap a (d/dθ) around the first term ([(dy/dθ)/(dx/dθ)]), which gives you
((d/dθ)[(dy/dθ)/(dx/dθ)])/[dx/dθ]
=((d/dθ)[(dy/dθ)/(dx/dθ)])/[1/(dx/dθ)]
=[(dx/dθ)*(d^2y/dθ^2)-(d^2x/dθ^2)(dy/dθ)]/[(d^3x/dθ^3)]
or (x' y'' - y' x'')/y'''
where ' means derivative wrt θ
 
  • #3
[tex]\frac {d^2y} {dx^2} = \frac {d \frac {dy}{dx} } {dx}
= \frac { d\frac {dy}{dx} } {d\theta} \frac {d\theta} {dx}
= \frac { d (\frac {dy}{d\theta} \frac {d\theta} {dx})} {d\theta} \frac {d\theta} {dx}
= \frac { d [\frac {dy}{d\theta} / \frac {dx} {d\theta}]} {d\theta} / \frac {dx} {d\theta}
= \frac { d \frac {y'} {x'}} {d\theta} / x'
= \frac {y''x' - y'x''}{x'^3}
[/tex]
 

1. What is a parametric derivative?

A parametric derivative is a type of derivative that is calculated with respect to a parameter. In other words, it is the rate of change of one variable with respect to another variable, rather than with respect to time.

2. How is a parametric derivative calculated?

To calculate a parametric derivative, you first need to express the variables in terms of a parameter. Then, you can use the chain rule and product rule to find the derivative of each variable with respect to the parameter. Finally, you can combine these derivatives to find the parametric derivative.

3. What is the purpose of using parametric derivatives?

Parametric derivatives are useful in situations where the variables are dependent on a common parameter, such as in parametric curves. They allow us to find the rate of change of each variable with respect to the parameter, which can help us understand the behavior of the variables in relation to each other.

4. Are there any real-world applications of parametric derivatives?

Yes, there are many real-world applications of parametric derivatives. For example, they are used in physics to describe the motion of objects in three-dimensional space. They are also used in economics to analyze the relationship between different variables in a market.

5. What are some common mistakes made when calculating parametric derivatives?

One common mistake is forgetting to use the chain rule when finding the derivative of each variable with respect to the parameter. Another mistake is not properly expressing the variables in terms of the parameter, resulting in an incorrect derivative. It is important to carefully follow the steps for calculating parametric derivatives to avoid these errors.

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