Why Are My Strain Values Displayed Incorrectly on the X-Axis in Excel?

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The discussion revolves around issues with plotting stress-strain diagrams in Excel, specifically regarding incorrect x-axis strain values that appear inflated. Users are trying to determine how to accurately identify the proportional yield point in their data without manually estimating it. Suggestions include calculating the slope of the linear portion of the graph to find where it deviates into non-linearity. Additionally, participants discuss how to calculate the work done on a specimen up to the proportional limit, noting that it can be determined by finding the area under the curve in the elastic region. The conversation highlights the importance of using Excel functions effectively to analyze stress-strain data.
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I am trying to plot s stress-strain diagram using the tabulated data in the accompanying diagram below.
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Now, notice that the values of strain (which will go on the x-axis) are very low--they range from 0.00001 to 0.23.

Now look at the graph ("I used an x-y scatter" with stress column as the Y data and strain as the X data) and you can see that the x-axis values are huge! (They range to 5500!)

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What am I doing wrong here?
 
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Really...no one knows how to use excel?
 
Casey, I can't see you graphs. Can you insert them in a post instead (my company blocks the site that hosts the links).

CS
 
I got it. But I have another quick question. If I have my stress-strain data plotted and I want to find approximate values of where the proportional yield is, i.e., where the graph stops being 'linear', is there a way to calculate that with excel rather than "eyeballing it" using the curve?
 
Saladsamurai said:
I got it. But I have another quick question. If I have my stress-strain data plotted and I want to find approximate values of where the proportional yield is, i.e., where the graph stops being 'linear', is there a way to calculate that with excel rather than "eyeballing it" using the curve?

I believe you can calculate the slope (based off of your table values) which should be constant over the linear portion. Then, when the slope deviates you'll be in the non-linear region.

CS
 
Right, but how can I efficiently find where it deviates? I have 5600 values for each substance.
 
Saladsamurai said:
Right, but how can I efficiently find where it deviates? I have 5600 values for each substance.

I'm not sure if Excel has a function for that. You would have to approximate where the non-linearity ends and use the SLOPE function to calculate it the slope over that region. I can't think of anything else at the moment. Do you have the data set in Excel already? If so, zip it and attach it and I'll see if I can find a function that might work.

CS
 
Thanks stewart. I just approximated it using the graph. I am pretty sure that is what he wants us to do... I was just being a.r. :)

Here's another one though!: If I am to find out how much WORK is done on a specimen up until the proportional limit (through the elastic region) how would I do that?

I know that W=\int F(x)dx But how would I find out what F(x) is? It cannot be constant.

I know it is in the elastic region. So it must satisfy Hooke's Law. So I know that

F(x)=ax+c and I have plenty of data... so I guess I DO have F(x)...

Just one thing though. Is it F(x)=ax+c or F(x)=-ax+c

Thanks for your help too!
 
Saladsamurai said:
Thanks stewart. I just approximated it using the graph. I am pretty sure that is what he wants us to do... I was just being a.r. :)

Here's another one though!: If I am to find out how much WORK is done on a specimen up until the proportional limit (through the elastic region) how would I do that?

I know that W=\int F(x)dx But how would I find out what F(x) is? It cannot be constant.

I know it is in the elastic region. So it must satisfy Hooke's Law. So I know that

F(x)=ax+c and I have plenty of data... so I guess I DO have F(x)...

Just one thing though. Is it F(x)=ax+c or F(x)=-ax+c

Thanks for your help too!

Since you have the stress and strain data the work will be equal to the area under the curve (in the elastic region). Take a look at your graph in the elastic region, it should look like a triangle. Then finding the area of the triangle is trivial. Alternatively, Hooke's law would apply to the elastic region and after integrating you would have W = 1/2*k*x^2.

Hope this helps.

CS
 
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