Polarization of light -- Determine the thickness of the crystal

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The discussion revolves around the polarization of light, specifically focusing on how to determine the thickness of a crystal that converts linearly polarized light into circularly polarized light. The problem involves concepts from optics and wave behavior in birefringent materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the nature of polarization, questioning the differences between linear, circular, and elliptical polarization. There are attempts to break down the problem into components based on the optical axes of the crystal and the phase accumulation of light as it passes through the material.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the behavior of light in the context of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of thickness based on phase differences, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretation of the problem or the methods to be used.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential misunderstandings regarding the type of polarization involved and the assumptions made about the light's behavior as it interacts with the crystal. There is also mention of the appropriateness of applying certain optical principles to the scenario presented.

Karl Karlsson
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Homework Statement
A double-breaking material can be used to convert linearly polarized light at right angles to circularly polarized. It is desired to utilize this to change the polarization of light at wavelength 589 nm. Calcite, or its full name, calcium carbonate (CaCO3) is an example of a double-breaking crystal. For the current wavelength, the refractive index is 1.658 for light polarized along the optical axis and 1.486 for light polarized perpendicular to the optical axis. The crystal is oriented so that the optical axis lies in the plane of the surface and the polarization direction of the incident linearly polarized light forms the angle 45 degrees towards the optical axis in the plane of the crystal. Determine the minimum thickness of the crystal required for outgoing light to be circularly polarized.
Relevant Equations
I assume Fresnel's formulas. Circularly polarized light in vector form:
(0, E*cos(kx - wt), E*cos(kx - wt +- pi/2)). Malus law (maybe)

Maybe (I don't know). Bragg condition for interference from an array (since it's a crystal, I don't know if that matters).
I don't even know where to start with this problem. What kind of slit makes linearly polarized light circularly polarized?

The correct answer is d = lambda/(4(n1 - n2)) = 856nm. But how do I get there?

Thanks in beforehand!
 
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The incoming light polarized at 45 degrees is halfway between the ordinary and extraordinary axes. You can treat it as a sum of two waves aligned along each of the axes. Now, how much phase does each part accumulate passing through a thickness t of the calcite?
 
Karl Karlsson said:
I don't even know where to start with this problem. What kind of slit makes linearly polarized light circularly polarized?
This is the key. Do you know what circularly polarised light is? How does it differ from linear polarized light, or unpolarized (randomly polarised) light.
 
Ooh, i must read wrong i thought i was some slit. Below is my attempt:
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However the light is only elliptically polarized and not circular or maybe they meant elliptically polarized light
 
Karl Karlsson said:
However the light is only elliptically polarized and not circular or maybe they meant elliptically polarized light

The light entering is at 45 degrees to the optical axis. It can be treated as a sum of two components. The two components have the same amplitude (because 45 degrees). The two components are eigen-polarizations of the birefringence. The crystal will not convert one to the other. The only thing it can do is change the relative phases. Of course you can get circular polarization.

The only thing I understood on the page was your correct calculation of the thickness based on the path length difference to wind up 1/4 wave out of phase. That is all you need. That is all the problem asked for.

I have no idea what you did at the top. Down at the bottom I have no idea why you think one of the two electric fields needs to be divided by a square root of two. If that is you creating the two parts out of the original 45 degree amplitude, why is only one of them a square root of two smaller than the original?
 
I think your application of Fresnel reflection/transmission is inappropriate here. Since you have normal incidence, it will not discriminate between p and s waves - or IMO there are no p and s, since all polarizations are perpendicular to the surface.
As KK says, just work out the thickness for 1/4 wave difference, as you did. Nothing in the question requires anything more.
 

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