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Pope's top exorcist says Harry Potter is 'king of darkness'

  1. Sep 3, 2006 #1
    from the website of the canadian broadcasting corporation:

    etc etc
    http://www.cbc.ca/story/arts/national/2006/09/03/harrypotter-exorcist-pope.html

    :rofl: that;s so crazy. it's almost like harry potter isn't a fictional character...
     
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  3. Sep 3, 2006 #2
    But I thought exorcists were fictional...
     
  4. Sep 3, 2006 #3

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    They are, except in their own minds. It's quite an irritating paradox. :grumpy:

    On the bright side, this should once and for all put away the myth about the infallibility of the pope.
     
  5. Sep 3, 2006 #4

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    This is just sad...
     
  6. Sep 3, 2006 #5
    Hmm... What's the difference between an exorcist and a character from a fictional children's novel?






    DSM-IV is nonfiction and not for children.
     
  7. Sep 3, 2006 #6
    That's just crazy talk. Harry Potter can't be the devil, because, as everyone knows, the devil is actually Barney the Dinosaur.
     
  8. Sep 3, 2006 #7

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    Now that everyone is having so much fun ridiculing religion, which in itself I think is disallowed as a religious discussion [or is this a one way street?], note that this is about basic beliefs of good and evil. Obviously the HP story conveys ideas about good and evil that are in conflict with Catholic beliefs. This is perceived by Catholics as crackpotism of the religious kind: Instead of misrepresenting the laws of physics and just making up science as they go, in this case, sacred truths and souls are at stake.

    I think the short of it is that by Catholic beliefs, Harry would have to be evil, yet he is protrayed as a hero.
     
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  9. Sep 4, 2006 #8
    yeah, but I think we can all agree on one thing. Hermione is a fox.
     
  10. Sep 4, 2006 #9

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    Not as much as you seem to think. While the physical presence of one is real, his alleged effectiveness is fictional.
     
  11. Sep 4, 2006 #10

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    Has anyone told Ozzy...

    edit: hardly surprising the church has got a bit confused over fictional vs. real tho' :biggrin:
     
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  12. Sep 4, 2006 #11

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    They are! :rofl: But it doesn't stop people from 'believing' in them and other supernatural or fictious entities.

    Ummm . . . maybe the readers can figure it out for themselves without some religious authority dictating to or deciding for them.


    These guys need to lighten up! :rolleyes:
     
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    If you are a Catholic you are bound by faith to listen to these authorities. That's how their religion works. If you choose not to have faith in their religion, why would you care? No one is twisting anyone's arm here.

    This is a bit like the "did the reporter actually convert to Islam" question. Who cares unless the reporters themselves takes it seriously.
     
  14. Sep 4, 2006 #13

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    I was actually thinking of readers in general, i.e. most people could tell the difference between 'white' and 'dark', or 'good' and 'evil', and most people do not need an authority to tell them what is 'white' and what is 'dark' every step of the way. It is unnecessary for Rowling to explicitly tell the reader that a particular magic is 'white/good' or 'black/evil'. Most parents probably can adequately explain this to their children.

    Besides - I am compelled to challenge all authority, except for the PF sisterhood. That's what recalcitrant heathens do. :biggrin:
     
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  15. Sep 4, 2006 #14

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    Really Ivan? How many times were you made to go to church before you were considered old enough to decide for yourself? What's the difference between indoctrination and arm twisting?
     
  16. Sep 4, 2006 #15

    Ivan Seeking

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    Astro, I didn't realize that non-catholics follow catholic teachings.

    Sorry, but this sounds like simple religion bashing to me. Shall we take Catholic doctrine one subject at a time just to ridicule it?
     
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  17. Sep 4, 2006 #16

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    That was a choice made by my parents, not the catholic church.

    I quit going at age 13.

    According to the Catholics and the Mormons [and probably a few other churches I've attended], I'm going to hell, so its not like I have a great desire to defend their beliefs, but I do defend their right to have them.
     
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  18. Sep 4, 2006 #17

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    <redacted>

    This is getting unnecessarily personal and off-topic. I apologize.
     
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  19. Sep 4, 2006 #18
    Wow, Ivan is a lot angrier than I remembered. Nobody is bashing your religiion. They are bashing your religion's beliefs.
     
  20. Sep 4, 2006 #19

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    I was not focusing on or singling the Catholic religion, although I suppose Rev. Amorth's declaration applies to Catholics.

    People are certainly free to believe whatever they wish. The way the OP was written, it appeared that one individual is making a declaration concerning all people. I simply challenge the declaration.
     
  21. Sep 4, 2006 #20

    Ivan Seeking

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    No need to apologize. I'm not catholic.

    This is about ridiculing religion which is a disallowed subject. If ridicule is allowed, then believers should have a right to defend their beliefs, and we all know that we're not going there.
     
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