Position Function and its antiderivative

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The discussion centers on the physical significance of a position function x(t) and its antiderivative. It highlights a misunderstanding in notation, where x(t) is incorrectly defined in terms of x instead of t, leading to confusion about the functions involved. The importance of proper notation, such as including "dt" in integrals, is emphasized to avoid misinterpretation. Additionally, the conversation touches on the relevance of physical quantities with units of length multiplied by time, concluding that such a formulation does not yield meaningful results in this context. Overall, clarity in mathematical representation is crucial for accurate communication of physical concepts.
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What is the physical siginificance of a position function x(t) and its antiderivative \int x(t).


Ex. a particles motion is defined by the function x(t) = x^{3} + \2x^{2} + 3x - 1

if its antiderivative is \int x(t) = \frac{x^{4}}{4} + \frac{2x^{3}}{3} + \frac{3x^{2}}{2} - x

The values in which these two functions intersect is :
x = .241732 and x = 3.298644

The area between these two curves is given by:

\int^{3.298644}_{.241732} (x^{3} + \2x^{2} + 3x - 1) dx - \int^{3.298644}_{.241732} (\frac{x^{4}}{4} + \frac{2x^{3}}{3} + \frac{3x^{2}}{2} - x) dxdx which is equal to 14.906747

So i was just wondering what this meant if anything at all.
 
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Well... it seems that something is a bit off here. When you say you have a position function x(t), you say that the position is given by x, and it depends on some variable t. But, first of all, when you list the antiderivative, you actually are using incorrect and incomplete notation; shouldn't there be a "dt" at the end of that integral?

Your notation is just totally incorrect. In your example, you define x(t) in terms of x; this does not make sense. When you write x(t), you imply that x(t) will be written in terms of the variable t. For example, x(t) = t, or x(t) = t^2 + t, and so on. Instead, you have written x(t) as a function of x; in other words, you're not actually writing x(t) at all, you're writing some other function, a function which depends on x, say, f(x). You then give the antiderivative of f(x) with respect to x.

I think these are issues which you should think about and fix before moving on.
 
In addition to mordechai's good post, I'd like to ask you:

Do YOU know of any interesting physical quantity having units length*time?
 
I think the point made by mordechai is irrelavent, any intelligent human being should be able to substitute t for x, seriously its not worth devoting an entire paragraph about. I made up the example off the top of my head, its not like i was going off of a problem from a book. so substitute t for x and we're good to go and for arildno, i can think of ft/sec, m/sec, and all of the other units of those kinds ft/sec^2 and so on...
 
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Where none of those is of the form (length unit)*(time unit).
 
I think that the simple answer to your final question is: No. It does not mean anything.
 
Perhaps you were thinking of a line integral? If the component of force in the direction of the line can be expressed as a function of position, then the line intergral would calculate the work done bewteen two points on the line.
 
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