Possible Subsets of Even Numbers in a Set of Size n?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining all possible subsets of even numbers from the set {1, 2, ..., n}, where n is specified to be an even number. The inclusion of the empty set as a valid subset is also noted.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the total number of subsets and the reasoning behind the formula 2^(n/2) for counting subsets that contain only even numbers. There is also a focus on the inclusion of the empty set in the count of subsets.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to clarify the original question and the reasoning behind the calculations. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the reasoning and seek confirmation. Guidance is provided regarding the inclusion of the empty set in the total count of subsets.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the distinction between counting all subsets versus non-empty subsets, with specific emphasis on the requirement to include the empty set as a valid subset in this context.

agargento
Messages
38
Reaction score
2

Homework Statement



Given {1,2,...,n}, n is an even number. What are all the possible subsets that contain only even numbers? (Notice that ∅ is also defined as such a subset).

Homework Equations



2n - all possibilities for group A with n objects

The Attempt at a Solution



I think the answer is 2n/2 ... to include just even numbers. Is my reasoning correct?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
agargento said:
I think the answer is 2n/2 ... to include just even numbers. Is my reasoning correct?
You should add a few sentences to explain your reasoning. And the question is "what are", not "how many", so can you say something more about them?.
 
FactChecker said:
You should add a few sentences to explain your reasoning. And the question is "what are", not "how many", so can you say something more about them?.

Just bad translation on my part. "How many" is more correct. As for reasoning, we were taught in class that for n objects, you have 2n possibilities for subsets. So I thought that because we have n/2 objects (we want only even numbers) 2n/2 is the answer.
 
agargento said:
Just bad translation on my part. "How many" is more correct. As for reasoning, we were taught in class that for n objects, you have 2n possibilities for subsets. So I thought that because we have n/2 objects (we want only even numbers) 2n/2 is the answer.
That is better. It never hurts to add a brief explanation like that.
 
FactChecker said:
That is better. It never hurts to add a brief explanation like that.

But is it correct?
 
agargento said:
But is it correct?
It is correct. The odd numbers are irrelevant.
 
PeroK said:
It is correct. The odd numbers are irrelevant.

Hmm ok. But what about ∅ ? If it is even, it should be included, but it does not seem to be included in {1...n}...
 
That's the empty set. That is included as one of the ##2^n## subsets. If you are looking for non-empty subsets then there are only ##2^n -1## of those.

In this case you were explicitly told to count the empty set.
 
PeroK said:
That's the empty set. That is included as one of the ##2^n## subsets. If you are looking for non-empty subsets then there are only ##2^n -1## of those.

In this case you were explicitly told to count the empty set.
Oh now I got it. Thanks!
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K