Potential difference and a proton

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem in electrostatics involving a proton moving between two points under the influence of an electrostatic force. The original poster presents the scenario with specific values for mass, charge, and speeds at two points, seeking to determine the potential difference between those points.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster questions whether sufficient information is provided to solve the problem, particularly regarding the acceleration and the electric field. Some participants suggest relating the change in kinetic energy to the change in potential energy to find the potential difference.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with one suggesting a method involving kinetic and potential energy. There is acknowledgment of a potential solution, but no consensus on the correctness of the steps taken has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There are indications that the problem may involve mixed units, and participants discuss the importance of showing units in calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the completeness of the information provided in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement


a proton (mass=1.67x10^-27kg, charge 1.6x10^-19C) moves from point A to point B under the influence of an electrostatic force only. at point A the proton moves with a speed of 50km/s and at point b it moves with a speed on 80km/s. determine the potential difference vb-va.


Homework Equations


delta V=delta U/Q
also, in a uniform field delta V=-Ed
F=qE=ma



The Attempt at a Solution


i don't know if enough information is provided in the question. i tried to find the acceleration of the proton as its speed increased from 50km/s to 80km/s but the question does not say how long it took to happen or how far it traveled in that time so using a=(v-u)/t cannot be found.

Similarly, i can't find a way of obtaining the electric field because all we are given is the charge of the proton and the magnitude of the force is also not specified and can't be foind from f=ma since i can't get a.

am i missing something or overlooking any details in the question? any help would be great
 
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I would say the kinetic energy gained by the proton is the same as the change in potential energy between the two points, which you can relate to the potential difference. Try that.
 
hey THANKS :approve: i can't believe i didn't see that before!

taking that approach, i used delta V= delta U/q
after finding delta U from delta KE = - delta U
so 1/2mv^2 final - 1/2mv^2 initial equalled 3.2565x10^-18, so change in potential energy was -3.2565x10^-18.
dividing that by the charge of a proton i got +20V.

can anyone tell whether my steps have brought me to the correct answer?
 
20V is correct, however one should show the units when working a problem, particularly when there are mixed systems (MKS/cgs) involved, which is not the case here.

Kinetic energy in the MKS system has units of kg-m2/s2 = Nt-m = J, and 1 V = 1 J/C, where C = Coulomb.
 
ok i will definitely keep that in mind for next time.
 

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