Potential of a uniformly polarized sphere

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The discussion revolves around calculating the potential of a uniformly polarized sphere using a specific equation. The subject area involves electrostatics and vector calculus, particularly focusing on the potential due to polarization in materials.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the implications of uniform polarization and the direction of the polarization vector. There are attempts to express the potential in terms of spherical coordinates and to clarify the integration process. Questions arise regarding the treatment of unit vectors and the correct formulation of the integrand.

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Guidance has been offered regarding the correct use of coordinates and the need to express vectors in terms of their components. Some participants are questioning the original setup and suggesting clarifications to ensure the integration is performed correctly. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the integration limits and the expressions for the vectors involved.

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There is an emphasis on ensuring that the integration is performed over the correct coordinates, and participants are noting potential pitfalls in the original approach. The discussion reflects the complexity of dealing with vector fields and the mathematical intricacies involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the potential of a uniformly polarized sphere directly from eq. 9

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V(r)=k \int \frac {P(r') \cdot \hat{r}} {r^2} d\tau

The Attempt at a Solution


P is a constant and can be factored out. Since r is taken, call the radius of the sphere R and and an arbitrary radial length l. Then by the law of cosines we can express the denominator for every volume element as.

r^2=l^2+z^2-2lzcos\theta

This is where I'm stuck. What can I do with r hat? Nothing? I understand that its a unit vector in the direction of of the volume element to the point I'm trying to evaluate at, but I'm not sure if I need to change anything about it or not. z is constant so in theory once I have that changed I can evaluate the integral. Is there an easier way?
 
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It says uniformly polarized, but what is the direction of polarization? Keep in mind it's actually a vector field, and you are dotting it with ##\hat r##.
 
Your expression for the potential should be
$$ V(r)=k \int \frac {\vec{P}(r') \cdot (\vec{r}-\vec{r}')} {|\vec{r}-\vec{r}'|^{3/2}} d^3 r' $$
where ##\vec{r}## is the position of the point of interest and ##\vec{r}'## is the position of volume element ##d^3 r'##. Note the integration over primed coordinates. I suggest that you write each of the vectors in the integrand in terms of unit vectors, then assemble the integrand.
 
Okay so P is uniform in the z direction. z hat dotted with r hat is equal to the cosine of the angle between the two, which I call phi. This angle is the top angle in the triangle that i utilized with the law of cosines to find r^2. Using the law of cosines again, I can relate phi to the rest of the triangle and plug in for r.

<br /> l^{2}=z^2+r^2-2zrcos\phi

cos\phi = \frac {l^2-z^2-r^2} {-2zr}

With some simplication,

kP \int \frac {z - lcos\theta} {(z^2+l^2-2zlcos\theta)^{3/2}}l^2sin\theta dld\theta d\psi

How's that integral look?
 
You are cutting corners that will lead you into trouble. The integration is over primed coordinates which your integrand does not show.
1. Use spherical coordinates ##(r, \theta, \phi)## for ##\vec{r}## and ##(r', \theta ', \phi ')## for ##\vec{r}'##.
2. Write expressions for ##\vec{r}## and ##\vec{r}'## in terms of these coordinates in the Cartesian representation. Without loss of generality, you can set ##\phi=0## and ##\phi ' = 0##.
3. Find an expression for ##(\vec{r}-\vec{r}') ##.
4. Find an expression for ##|\vec{r}-\vec{r}'|^{3/2} ##.
5. Take the dot product ##\vec{P}(r') \cdot (\vec{r}-\vec{r}')##.
6. Assemble the integrand. It should be in terms of ##(r, \theta, \phi)## and ##(r', \theta ', \phi ')##.
7. Integrate over primed coordinates. I would do ##\theta '## first.
 
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kuruman is right. I didn't notice at first but your equation is slightly off. But, if that's what the book is giving you/asking you to use then so be it.
 

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