Power of a Fan and WindMill using Energy vs dynamic method)

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The discussion focuses on calculating the power of a windmill using two methods: the dynamics method and the energy method. The dynamics method derives power from force and velocity, leading to the equation P = Fv, while the energy method calculates power based on kinetic energy transferred by wind. Both methods yield different expressions for power, prompting questions about their validity. It is suggested that combining the Bernoulli equation with the momentum equation can reconcile the results from both methods. Ultimately, the discussion seeks clarity on whether the dynamics method is incorrect due to the discrepancies in outcomes.
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Homework Statement


Determine the power of a windmill using constants where appropriate.

Homework Equations


P = Fv
K = (1/2)mv2

The Attempt at a Solution



Dynamics Method
P = Fv

In time Δt, Δm amount of wind passes through the windmill, at speed of v.

Δp = vΔm
= v(AρΔx)

Dividing both sides by Δt,

F = Aρv2

P = Fv = Apv3Energy Method

In time Δt, Δm amount of wind passes through the windmill, with KE of (1/2)(Δm)v2 .

Energy Transferred = (1/2)(Δm)v2
= (1/2)(ρAΔx)v2

Dividing both sides by Δt,

Power = (1/2)ρAv3 I've thought a long time about this; both methods make sense, but why are they different? Appreciate any help guys!
 
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If you combine the Bernoulli equation with the momentum equation (force) across the blades by relating to pressure differential, you will see that you get the same result as you get with energy considerations.
 
LawrenceC said:
If you combine the Bernoulli equation with the momentum equation (force) across the blades by relating to pressure differential, you will see that you get the same result as you get with energy considerations.

so do is the dynamics method here wrong?
 
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