Power Spectrum vs. Power Spectral Density Spectrum

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The discussion focuses on the differences between the power spectrum and the power spectral density (PSD) spectrum of a signal. It explores theoretical and conceptual aspects, including definitions, units, and mathematical relationships, without reaching a consensus on the distinctions.

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  • Some participants propose that the power spectrum and the PSD spectrum are identical, while others argue they are not due to differences in units (Watts vs. Watts/Hz).
  • One participant mentions that the PSD spectrum is the magnitude spectrum of a signal squared, while another claims the power spectrum is also the magnitude spectrum squared, leading to conflicting views.
  • It is suggested that the power spectrum applies to periodic time signals, whereas the PSD spectrum is for non-periodic time signals.
  • A participant questions the units of the PSD, suggesting that if the spectrum is obtained via the Fourier Transform, the units may imply an energy density spectrum (ESD) rather than a power density spectrum (PSD).
  • Another participant provides a mathematical derivation of the power spectrum and its relationship to the Fourier Transform, emphasizing the importance of the underlying math over terminology.

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Participants express multiple competing views on the definitions and relationships between the power spectrum and the PSD spectrum, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Participants highlight potential limitations in definitions and assumptions regarding the nature of signals (periodic vs. non-periodic) and the implications of units in different contexts.

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Does anyone know the difference between the power spectrum of a signal and the power spectral density (PSD) spectrum of a signal?

I've read on the net lots of things ranging from:
i) They are identical
ii) Power spectrum is units of Watts, power spectral density spectrum units of Watts/Hz, so not identical (conflicts with i))
iii) PSD spectrum is the magnitude spectrum of a signal squared
iv) Power spectrum is magnitude spectrum of a signal squared (conflicts with iii))
v) Power spectrum is for periodic time signals (which are discrete in frequency domain) and PSD spectrum is for non-periodic time signals (which are continuous in frequency domain)

Which of these is correct, and what are the fundatmental differences between the power spectrum and the PSD spectrum?

Thanks!

Paul
 
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For signals of continuous frequency content like white noise, it's Watts/Hz. But that term is also used in other disciplines. E.g. in vibration analysis the units are g2/Hz.

For signals with spot frequency content only, the units are simply Watts.
 
Thanks for the reply. Ok, that's fine, but now I have a question about obtaining the PSD of a signal that is continuous in the frequency domain. I have read it is simply the square of the magnitude of the spectrum.

If we assume that the spectrum was obtained with the Fourier Transform, surely the units of the spectrum are Volt seconds (Vs) since we integrate the voltage signal across time. Now if this is squared we get V^2s^2. If we assume a 1ohm load, then we can take out V^2 as the power into that load (J/s). Hence we get the units J/s * s^2 = Js. Joule seconds are equivalent to Joules per Hz, so it looks like the square of the magnitude of the spectrum is in fact an energy density spectrum (ESD), not a power density spectrum (PSD)? Surely they are not equivalent, in which case why do lots of websites say the magnitude squared is the PSD instead of the ESD?

Thanks!

Paul
 
OK this is how the game is played.

Take a time-continuous signal y(t). It has no Fourier transform since it doesn't meet the Dirichlet conditions (finite energy, for one). So you cut off all time except -T < t < T. Call this new function x(t). It does have a Fourier transform = X(f). The energy in this signal is ∫x(t)2dt = ∫X|(f)|2df, both integrated over -∞ to ∞ (Parseval theorem).

So the power P = averaged energy = lim T→∞ of (1/2T)∫|X(f)|2df integrated from -∞ to ∞.

Define the power spectrum as G(f) = lim T→∞ of (1/2T)|X(f)|2. The power between two frequencies is now given as P = 2∫G(f)df integrated from f1 to f2. (The reason for the "2" is based on neglecting negative frequencies in the above derivation. I hate negative frequencies! :mad:)

In sum, G(f) is the power spectrum and the power spectral density. Don't be waylaid by the terminology, concentrate on the math.



In your case, x(t) = V(t) and as you state a 1 ohm resistor is assumed.
 
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