Preparation for Thermodynamics & Modrn Physics

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The discussion revolves around preparing for the course "PHY 215: Thermodynamics & Modern Physics" at Michigan State University. The participant, Alex, is transitioning from Washtenaw Community College and has limited experience in thermodynamics and no background in chemistry. The course covers topics such as thermodynamics, atomic physics, and nuclear physics, with a suggestion that prior knowledge of thermodynamics is not essential. It is noted that statistics will not play a significant role in the course. Alex expresses excitement about starting university courses and is concerned about registering for classes after orientation, particularly for math courses like Linear Algebra and PDEs. Responses indicate that physics and math classes typically do not fill up quickly, and professors are often accommodating with enrollment.
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Preparation for "Thermodynamics & Modrn Physics"

Hello,
I will be transferring to Michigan State University next semester (from Washtenaw Community College) and will be taking a course called "PHY 215: Thermodynamics & Modern Physics", which is actually in the Chemistry Building.
I have learned a bit about Thermodynamics in my first calculus based physics course, but we didn't spend much time on it. I have no experience in chemistry, but I will be taking General Chemistry next semester as well.
The course description is: Thermodynamics, atomic physics, quantized systems, nuclear physics, solids, elementary particles.
I am wondering what I should spend my time on studying for preparation. I have about 20 days off after this semester ends. I have never taken a course in statistics before. Is it likely that the course use much statistics?
Thank you!
Alex
 
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What are the prerequisites for this course?
 


http://www.pa.msu.edu/courses/phy215/

gives the prerequisites. The dates seem to correspond to this semester. I don't think that you will be expected to know much, if anything, about thermodynamics. However, studying a little more thermodynamics before the course could prove useful.
 


Greetings again AlexChandler,

When I took the course, the first 3 weeks were thermodynamics related (Oh, and I see its still the same based on the course website). The remaining was more "modern physics" which basically gave a week long overview of a variety of topics. It likely doesn't assume any prior knowledge of thermodynamics. Statistics won't be of much use in this course.

You'll take your 'real' thermodynamics course in PHY 410 (statistical mechanics).

Good luck!
 


Aha Thank you!
Im very excited for my first university courses. I think I will take either Linear Algebra, PDE's or Applied Advanced Calculus as well. However I cannot register until my orientation on January 7, and classes begin on the 10th! So I hope the classes do not fill up before then. PHY 215 still has 20 spots open. Do you think this will be a problem? I was told that the physics and math classes usually don't fill up.
 


AlexChandler said:
Aha Thank you!
Im very excited for my first university courses. I think I will take either Linear Algebra, PDE's or Applied Advanced Calculus as well. However I cannot register until my orientation on January 7, and classes begin on the 10th! So I hope the classes do not fill up before then. PHY 215 still has 20 spots open. Do you think this will be a problem? I was told that the physics and math classes usually don't fill up.

I don't know about the specific school you will attend, but in the schools I've attended, math and physics profs are usually very willing to enroll students over the 'full' quota. The only exceptions are labs, which have a hard limit due to the number of lab stations.
 
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