Pressure at different points in vacuum system

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In a vacuum system with a mechanical pump and nitrogen flow, the pressure measured at 1 torr in a 2.75-inch tube may not be the same in the 1/4-inch tube due to potential velocity effects and pressure losses. The Bernoulli equation can be applied, but only if the gas flow is not in the Knudsen regime, which is likely at this pressure level. If Knudsen flow is present, Bernoulli's equation becomes inapplicable, and Knudsen's equation should be used instead. The temperature is also necessary to convert the volumetric flow rate to flow velocity for accurate calculations. Understanding the mean free path length in both tubes is essential for analyzing the flow regime.
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Hi all,

I have a vacuum chamber which is consistently pumped out by a mechanical pump at the downstream end and is fed nitrogen at the upstream end. The path of the nitrogen is as follows: A mass flow controller regulates 150 SCCM flowing at all times. The N2 flows through several feet of 1/4 inch tube. The N2 then enters the reactor which is a 2.75 inch tube. The pressure is read by a gauge in the 2.75 inch tube. The N2 then flows to the pump.

Like this:

MFC (150 SCCM) --> 1/4" tube --> 2.75" tube (w/ pressure gauge) --> pump

My question is, let's say the pressure is read to be 1 torr in the 2.75 inch tube, is the pressure the same in the 1/4 inch tube? I am familiar with the bernoulli equation but unsure if that applies here,

Thanks for any feedback!
 
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Blueskyflyers said:
My question is, let's say the pressure is read to be 1 torr in the 2.75 inch tube, is the pressure the same in the 1/4 inch tube? I am familiar with the bernoulli equation but unsure if that applies here,
It applies here, and you can use it to calculate the pressure.
 
Don't I need to know the velocity of the gas inside the two tubes in order to do the calculation? All I know is 150 SCCM of N2 are being fed into the 1/4" tube
 
Yes...so you have the volumetric flow rate (standard and pressure) and pipe size...

The main x-factor I see is if the velocity is high enough, there may be losses.
 
Hi. If you're reading 1 torr in the main tube, that's awfully close to the Knudsen regime. It might already be Knudsen flow - probably you should check.

If it is in the Knudsen regime Bernoulli's equation is no longer applicable and you should use Knudsen's equation, instead.
 
You also need the temperature to convert volumetric flow rate to flow velocity, but that should not be a major problem.

Mean free path length should be of the order of 50 micrometers in the bigger tube. Didn't calculate it for the smaller tube.
 
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