Pressure for ideal gas in terms of stat.

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The discussion focuses on deriving the pressure of an ideal gas using momentum distribution. The initial calculations involve determining the change in momentum when a particle collides with a wall and calculating the average impact per unit time. The pressure is expressed as the total average impact divided by the area of the wall. The author realizes that the correct expression for pressure should include a factor of one-third, accounting for the distribution of particle velocities in three dimensions. The conclusion emphasizes the need to adjust the average rate of impact to reflect that only a third of the particles contribute to the pressure in any given direction.
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I am trying to deduce the expression for pressure of perfect gas when the momentum distribution n(p) is given.

Here is how I did. First we assume a box with side length L_x, L_y, L_z, when a particle , say moving a long x direction, collide with one side of the wall, the total change of momentum would be

\Delta p_x = -2m v_x

Assume it takes time t for one round-trip (from one wall to the oppsite and come back), hence

t = \frac{2L_x}{v_x}

and 1/t is the rate of colliding.

Now consider the average impact per unit time,

\overline{f} = \Delta p_x \times (\textnormal{rate of colliding}) = 2mv_x \frac{v_x}{2L_x} = \frac{mv_x^2}{L_x}

For N particles, the total average impact per unit time would be

\overline{F} = \sum_i^Nf_i = \sum_i^N \frac{mv_{ix}^2}{L_x}

Hence, the pressure on the side A=L_yL_z woule be

P = \frac{\overline{F}}{A} = \frac{\overline{F}}{L_yL_z}

For continuous case, the average impact becomes

\overline{F} = \int \frac{pvn(p)}{L_x}dp

So, the pressure becomes

P = \frac{\overline{F}}{A} = \int \frac{pvn(p)}{L_xL_yL_z}dp

In unit volume, L_xL_yL_z=1, wehave

P = \frac{\overline{F}}{A} = \int pvn(p)dp

I know there is something wrong here. The correct answer should be

P = \frac{1}{3}\int pvn(p)dp

Well, I don't know where my reasoning is going wrong. From \overline{F} = \sum_i^N \frac{mv_{ix}^2}{L_x} to \overline{F} = \int \frac{pvn(p)}{L_x}dp, I feel that there is something missing?
 
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Because when you say N particles with the side L_yL_z, you say that all of the particles move in the x direction. Whereas in average only one third of the particles move in the x direction.
So you should divide the average rate of impact by three for all three directions...
 
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