Principal Ideal, Polynomial generators

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The discussion revolves around the properties of principal ideals in the polynomial ring R[x], where R is an integral domain. The original poster presents a problem involving the existence of a generator for a principal ideal and questions whether all generators of minimal degree are equivalent in generating the same ideal.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the implications of choosing a polynomial of minimal degree as a generator and question the validity of the division algorithm in the context of integral domains. There is also discussion about the nature of units in the ideal and the conditions under which different generators can exist.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the assumptions made regarding the division algorithm and the nature of units in the ideal. Some participants express confusion about the implications of the problem, particularly regarding the second part of the question about generators of minimal degree.

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There is a mention of specific examples, such as the ideal generated by X+2 in Z, which raises questions about the relationship between different generators and their degrees. The participants are navigating through the constraints of the definitions and properties of ideals in the context of integral domains.

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Homework Statement



Suppose R is an integral domain and I is a principal ideal in R[x], and I \neq {0}

a) Show I = <g(x)> for some g(x)\inR[x] that has minimal degree among all non-zero polynomials in I.

b) Is it necessarily true that I = <g(x)> for every g(x)\inR[x] that has minimal degree among all non-zero polynomials in I?

Homework Equations



Theorems, the division algorithm.

The Attempt at a Solution



For (a) we can take a g(x) of minimal degree as our generator; if deg(g) = 0, then g(x) is a unit in I and I = R[x], so we can assume deg(g)\geq1

Now we let f(x)\inI and apply the division algorithm.

f = qg + r, where q,r\inR[x] and deg(r)<deg(g)

This means that r = f - qg which is an element of I. By our choice of g having minimal degree, this means that r = 0. Otherwise r would be an element of I, and could be written as r = pg, p\inR[x]. (I'm not quite sure how best to explain the reasoning behind the fact that r must equal 0)

finishing the proof after this is fine.

b) I'm confused for this question, but I assume its a contradiction type answer, although I can't imagine a g(x) that wouldn't generate a principal ideal...

Please help!
 
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nugget said:
if deg(g) = 0, then g(x) is a unit in I

Why??

Now we let f(x)\inI and apply the division algorithm.

f = qg + r, where q,r\inR[x] and deg(r)<deg(g)

Did you prove that the division algorithm holds when R is simply an integral domain?

b) I'm confused for this question, but I assume its a contradiction type answer, although I can't imagine a g(x) that wouldn't generate a principal ideal...

Consider \mathbb{Z} and take the ideal generated by X+2. Then 2X+4 is in the ideal and is of minimal degree.
 
Hey,

regarding that deg(g)=0 bit, I guess I just assumed that a constant would be a unit in I. This would only be the case if R was a field, right?

Now I'm really confused for this question too; don't know how to prove the division algorithm, let alone for an integral domain.

I think I understand what you're saying for b)

Z is an integral domain so we can use that for R. b) is not true because <x+2> generates I and is of minimal degree, but <2x+4> can't generate I (it can't generate x+2, as Z doesn't contain fractions) but is also of minimal degree. Hence not every g(x) in R[x] of minimal degree generates I.
 
The trick for (a) is that you already know that I is principal. That is, you already know that I=<g(x)> for some g. The only thing you need to prove is that g is of minimal degree.
 

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