Ring in which Quotient and Remainder not Unique

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Homework Statement


Give an example of a commutative ring ##R## and ##f(x), g(x) R[x]## with ##f## monic such that the remainder after dividing ##g## by ##f## is not unique; that is, there are ##q,q',r,r' \in R[x]## with ##qf + r = g = q' f + r'## and ##\deg (r)## and ##\deg (r')## are both strictly less than ##\deg(f)##.

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Okay. I have been thinking about this problem for a rather long time ---I've been foiling for hours (perhaps an exaggeration). I have tried several pairs of polynomials when the base ring is ##\Bbb{Z}_4##, ##\Bbb{Z}_6##, and ##\Bbb{Z}_8##. My strategy was to solve for ##q## when ##r=0##; and then find a ##q'## given some nonzero ##r'##. I set up with equations with five variables so that I could find a nonzero remainder with ##\deg (r) < \deg (f)##, but I could find no values for these five variables. I could use a hint on finding a ring ##R## and polynomials ##f(x)## and ##g(x)##. But please don't just hand them to me; I would like to figure out this problem on my own as much as possible.
 
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I don't know an example either, but when it comes to factorization and exceptions, the matrix rings are a good address to look for examples. This way you avoid all the stuff which comes in with fields and their extensions. Or you could look at ##R[x,y]=R[y][x]##.
 
Well, since matrix rings haven't been introduced yet, I suspect that the author of the book I am using has something more elementary in mind.
 
Bashyboy said:
Well, since matrix rings haven't been introduced yet, I suspect that the author of the book I am using has something more elementary in mind.
Try ##\mathbb{Z}[\sqrt{-3}]## or ##\mathbb{Q}[-\sqrt{5}]##.
 
Unfortunately these haven't been introduced either.
 
But polynomial rings have been introduced? So what about my other example ##R[y]## as ring and polynomial ring ##R[y][x]\,##? But I haven't thought about whether the fact that it is no principal ideal domain is already sufficient to supply a counterexample.
 

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