Probability of finding a particle [concept behind it]

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of probability in quantum mechanics, specifically the probability of finding a particle within a given interval [a,b]. Participants explore the relationship between the wave function at different times, Ψ(x,t) and Ψ(x,0), and the implications for calculating probabilities.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the probability of finding a particle in the interval [a,b] can be calculated using the wave function at time t=0, Ψ(x,0), instead of at a later time, Ψ(x,t).
  • Another participant asserts that both approaches are correct, noting that the probability at time t=0 is equivalent to that at any later time due to the mathematical properties of the wave function.
  • A participant seeks a physical intuition behind the equivalence of probabilities at different times, expressing difficulty in understanding why they should be the same.
  • In response, one participant challenges the assumption that the probabilities are the same, suggesting that there is a misunderstanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the probabilities of finding a particle at different times can be considered equivalent. There is no consensus on the intuition behind this relationship.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential confusion regarding the time evolution of quantum states and the implications for probability calculations. The assumptions underlying the equivalence of probabilities at different times are not fully explored.

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okay so I'm having a bit hard time understanding this:

i get that probability of finding a particle in between [a,b] is integral (over a,b) (Ψ(x,t)*)Ψ(x,t) dx.

however, can it also be integral (over a,b) of (Ψ(x,0)*)Ψ(x,0) dx?

if not, why?

i saw an example where Ψ(x,0) was given and problem asked user to find prob between some interval. i noticed that the example found Ψ(x,t) first (using usual unitary operator e^(-ikE/h)). i don't understand why it can't be found right away from Ψ(x,0).

thanks a bunch!
 
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They are both correct. The second one is simply the first at time t=0.

Thanks
Bill
 
oh i see. mathematically, i suppose e^(-i) part always goes away so they have to be equal.

in terms of physics, could you give a quick reasoning for why this is true? why is the probability of finding a particle in interval [a,b] the same as the probability of finding the particle at time t=0 in same interval [a,b]? kinds having a hard time putting intuition behind it.
thanks.
 
catsarebad said:
why is the probability of finding a particle in interval [a,b] the same as the probability of finding the particle at time t=0 in same interval [a,b]? kinds having a hard time putting intuition behind it.
It isn't.

Why would you think such a thing?

Thanks
Bill
 

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