Probability Quiz: Variables X1 to X46, Expectation E(Xj)=0

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The discussion focuses on calculating the correlation ρ(Y,Z) for independent variables X1 to X46, where each variable takes values of 1 and -1 with an expected value E(Xj)=0. The covariance COV(Y,Z) is initially thought to be zero due to the independence of Xj, but it is clarified that Y and Z are not independent since they share common variables. To find the variances σY and σZ, participants suggest using the properties of sums of independent random variables. The conversation emphasizes the need to express YZ in terms of the Xi variables to compute E(YZ). Ultimately, the key misunderstanding lies in the dependence of Y and Z on the same sample set.
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the variables X1,X2,... are independents and taking values 1 and -1 and their expected value E(Xj)=0 and we have Y=X1+X2+X3+...+Xn AND Z=X1+X2+X3+...+Xn+1 find the ρ(Y,Z) for n=46

i know that ρ(Υ,Ζ)=COV(Y,Z)/(σΥ*σZ)

where σY = sqrt(varY) and σZ=sqrt(varZ) how i can find them because we don't have any sum or probability to estimate them, For the cov(Y,Z) i think tha is 0 because Xj are indepents and expected value still 0 but is says tha its not true what i am doing wrong?
 
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ParisSpart said:
the variables X1,X2,... are independents and taking values 1 and -1 and their expected value E(Xj)=0
In other words, for all i, P(Xi= -1)= 1/3, P(Xi= 0)= 1/3, and P(Xi= 0)= 1/3.
(Unless you are missing the word "is": "and their expected value is E(Xj)= 0". In that case, P(Xi= -1)= 1/2, P(Xi= 1)= 1/2.)

and we have Y=X1+X2+X3+...+Xn AND Z=X1+X2+X3+...+Xn+1 find the ρ(Y,Z) for n=46

i know that ρ(Υ,Ζ)=COV(Y,Z)/(σΥ*σZ)

where σY = sqrt(varY) and σZ=sqrt(varZ) how i can find them because we don't have any sum or probability to estimate them, For the cov(Y,Z) i think tha is 0 because Xj are indepents and expected value still 0 but is says tha its not true what i am doing wrong?
 
HallsofIvy said:
In other words, for all i, P(Xi= -1)= 1/3, P(Xi= 0)= 1/3, and P(Xi= 0)= 1/3.
(Unless you are missing the word "is": "and their expected value is E(Xj)= 0". In that case, P(Xi= -1)= 1/2, P(Xi= 1)= 1/2.)
I read it as "their expected value, E(Xj), = 0". So P(Xi= -1) = P(Xi= 1)= 1/2.
For the cov(Y,Z) i think tha is 0 because Xj are indepents
But Y and Z depend on n of the same samples, so will not be independent. On an occasion when Y turns out to be higher than normal, Z likely will be too.
 
how i can find E(YZ)=? i can't think how to find it
 
ParisSpart said:
how i can find E(YZ)=? i can't think how to find it
Write the expression for YZ in terms of the Xi (using Ʃ). The E() of a sum is the sum of the E()s.
 
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